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In Reply to: Maybe you and Tom could start a support group for those whose minds are affected by Magic Stones and Bricks posted by AJinFLA on March 21, 2007 at 19:09:01:
The Shakti stone made it worse, but I didn'y notice anything at all until I removed it after 3 weeks. Besides, the only "support group" for audio that I'm engaged with is here, and this is growing mighty thin.If you weren't always such a turd in the punchbowl around here, I'd send it to you for your own experiment. But that would imply that I respect your thoughts and that I would value your conclusions. Neither of those positions is likely given your bully-of-the-sandbox behavior.
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RY - The Shakti stone made it worse, but I didn'y notice anything at all until I removed it after 3 weeks. Besides, the only "support group" for audio that I'm engaged with is here, and this is growing mighty thin.
If you weren't always such a turd in the punchbowl around here, I'd send it to you for your own experiment. But that would imply that I respect your thoughts and that I would value your conclusions. Neither of those positions is likely given your bully-of-the-sandbox behavior.Thanks but no thanks Robert. Things like the Shakti are geared more towards yourself and thedubeguy. I have absolutely no doubt that it would have a very real effect on you. It's supposed to. I also have no doubt that the folks who fall to the ground writhing from voodoo spells are feeling very real effects. That is precisely how things are supposed to work. Incredibly strong minds that are not propped up by crutches will certainly experience things like this.
Mine is far to weak to support the Shakti or the Magic brick that affected my good friend Tom.
Good luck with your endeavors and payments towards these great causes.
Folks like Kait and Belt need strong minds like yours to form the symbiotic relationship of Audiophilia supply and demand.
Enjoy.cheers,
AJ
The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
Too bad you didn't more than glance at my post. You might have noticed a few things.The Shakti wsa a gift from someone who wanted to see how I would respond. I didn't buy it, nor did I want it.
I was surprised because it had an effect. It made it worse. Noticeable only over time, and when it was removed. You do know that there are "components" inside one, don't you? (This has been discussed on AA ad nauseum.) You may also remember that if it hadn't been for your disfunctional persona, I would gladly have sent it to you for a thorough debunking. MIght have been interesting to see if you could actually do it.
I have no "tweaks" in my system.
In case you hadn't read any of them (or in case you don't have a memory), my posts with Mr. Kait have been less than cordial. It is my opinion that he is a a classic old-school huckster. May Belt doesn't deserve my attention.
Nor do you. Your quips and parries aren't humorous: some are mean-spirited childish attacks, others just fall flat. You're certainly not as interesting as Soundmind. At least he had ideas worth debating.
RY - Too bad you didn't more than glance at my post. You might have noticed a few things.I've stepped in dog crap without "noticing things" before, so forgive me.
RY - The Shakti wsa a gift from someone who wanted to see how I would respond. I didn't buy it, nor did I want it.
I got a voodoo doll once, with the suggestion that putting it near my stereo would affect the sound. But of course, I didn't try it, since my science based education allows me to comprehend stupid rubbish when I see it.
RY - I was surprised because it had an effect. It made it worse.
I'm not surprised.
RY - Noticeable only over time,
You have absolutely no clue about psycho-acoustics or auditory memory do you? Of course not. Nor should you. Right, carry on.
RY - and when it was removed.
So you did not notice an immediate detrimental effect, until it was removed, then you noticed? Hmmm, doesn't sound like your ears are very well trained or "golden" after all LOL.
RY - You do know that there are "components" inside one, don't you? (This has been discussed on AA ad nauseum.)
No, I was not aware, nor was I aware of what spices, roots and chicken feet make up a voodoo doll, since I really don't care to know. It won't affect my mind either way.
RY - You may also remember that if it hadn't been for your disfunctional persona, I would gladly have sent it to you for a thorough debunking.
What purpose would that have served? Would you like me to debunk 2+2=5 too? I have more entertaining things to do with my dysfunctional pals here, like you and tubey.
RY - MIght have been interesting to see if you could actually do it.
Do what? What is interesting in me throwing out garbage, on trash collection day?
RY - I have no "tweaks" in my system.
You have awareness of what "tweaks" are? You can't even spell the one's in your system? I'll link the spelling for you below LOL. Do you know that weak minded folks *never* consider or assess themselves to be weak minded? Don't think about that too much :-).
RY - In case you hadn't read any of them (or in case you don't have a memory)
No, I generally don't read through *all* the nonsense here, including your posts.
RY - my posts with Mr. Kait have been less than cordial. It is my opinion that he is a a classic old-school huckster. May Belt doesn't deserve my attention.
Well, at least we agree on one thing.
RY - Nor do you. Your quips and parries aren't humorous: some are mean-spirited childish attacks, others just fall flat.
I am deeply concerned with this. No, really. No one is laughing other than me? Damn.
RY - You're certainly not as interesting as Soundmind. At least he had ideas worth debating.
He tried arguing from a scientific point of view with anti-science loons like yourself, on an audiophile website of all things. An utter waste of time. Where did it get him?
cheers,
AJ
The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
"RY - Too bad you didn't more than glance at my post. You might have noticed a few things.I've stepped in dog crap without "noticing things" before, so forgive me."
Very nice, AJ. That's the kind of comment that I'm certain led to your troubles with the neighboring kids "growing up" (I use the term very generally).
"RY - The Shakti wsa a gift from someone who wanted to see how I would respond. I didn't buy it, nor did I want it.I got a voodoo doll once, with the suggestion that putting it near my stereo would affect the sound. But of course, I didn't try it, since my science based education allows me to comprehend stupid rubbish when I see it.
RY - I was surprised because it had an effect. It made it worse.
I'm not surprised."
You have stepped in your own this time, AJ. You acknowledge it had an effect. Why would it if your "science based education" (a claim I have serious doubts about) tells you it must be "stupid rubbish."
"RY - You may also remember that if it hadn't been for your disfunctional persona, I would gladly have sent it to you for a thorough debunking.What purpose would that have served? Would you like me to debunk 2+2=5 too? I have more entertaining things to do with my dysfunctional pals here, like you and tubey."
Dysfunctional? How you got to that conclusion must have something to do with your "science based education" no doubt. You don't have a post at hand that shows me being dysfunctional, do you? Guess that just makes this another in a long line of examples of your borish taunting.
"RY - I have no "tweaks" in my system.
You have awareness of what "tweaks" are? You can't even spell the one's in your system? I'll link the spelling for you below LOL. Do you know that weak minded folks *never* consider or assess themselves to be weak minded? Don't think about that too much :-)."
A couple of things: first, thank you for correcting my spelling. Did I add an extra "t" to Shunyata? I'll correct that as soon as I can. We're fortunate to have someone as helpful as yourself to point out that spelling is more important than content. However, I'm not as caring, so I have no problem pointing out to you that the use of an apostrophe to signify pthe plural condition is entirely incorrect. You have constructed the possesive.
Now to content: I know what tweaks are, but do you? Power cords aren't tweaks, they're just power cords. Surely your "science based education" gave you the tools to understand the link from your wall outlet to your "amp." I would say that "tweak" is necessary, and I'll bet you have a power cord or two as well. I have no Geoff Kait "product," no green pens, no foamcore headshell mounts, no ceramic cable elevators, no shun mook mumbo jumbo. I'm as amazed at auudiophile gullibility as you are, but you have somehow deduced that I'm "dysfunctional" and "anti-science." I think you need to reassess your own procedures for arriving at conclusions. They're faulty. Read your second-to-last sentence in the paragraph referenced above: pay attention.
"RY - You're certainly not as interesting as Soundmind. At least he had ideas worth debating.He tried arguing from a scientific point of view with anti-science loons like yourself, on an audiophile website of all things. An utter waste of time. Where did it get him?"
Sorry AJ. Wrong again. We never argued about content, as I've never taken an "anti-science" position. Soundmind was a pedantic bully. He's not here because he was an ass: too bad, because unlike you, he offered content that is sorely missed.
The last word is yours, AJ. The record of your posts stands as a testament to bad behavior. With all the anger you have coursing through your veins, I'd be surprised if you actually enjoyed this hobby at all. That's a sad thing, as there is a lot of goodness out there to enjoy. Good luck working that out.
Hello Robert,I have a question is possible that you'd allow me to try your Shakti stone? I'd like to do a test of it VS an object of equal weight. I'm curious how much of the effect is due to mass and how much is due to it's effecting the magnetic field around the transformer.
Now remember your advice you gave me about this idiot from Tampax, Fla. POLLYinFLA is an arrogant ass. Look at how often his posts are only taunting others in the name of "joking" & needling" with no real audio content to them. It's obvious he cannot hear squat diddly. Just think about it. He uses some bastardized version of Dr Linkwitz's Orions which WAS carefully designed product before Polly got his hands on it. I guess POLLYinFLA with his extensive scientific high school education believes he can just change what he wants to willy-nilly and it will be an improvement. Now to these god-awful things he calls speakers, he attaches 3 different pro-solid state amps, uses anything available for wires (cheaper the better) and then tops that off with copious amounts of equalization. Yessiree, that's exactly what every other 16 year old has in their basement too!
Unfortunately for all of us here in PHP we have to deal with this sick demented and scared little boy who lives in Polly's body. Safe behind the anonymity his moniker Polly can now get back at everyone who picked on him and beat him up at school. Now at home he's finally able to make everyone pay who disagrees with him. He certainly lives up to his motto: Always negative NOTHING good to say, THAT'S the POLLYinFLA way!
Forget him Robert, he'll only drag you down.
Thetubeguy1954"If you thought that science was certain - well, that is just an error on your part.” Richard Feynman theoretical physicist, 1918-1988
Sometimes it's hard to take one's own advice. ;)
I think you have my e-mail address. Send me your mailing address and I'll send the Shakti to you. I may peel the back of of it to see what's in there. My guess is that it is steel laminations like a transformer...
Robert,Unlike POLLYinFLA I don't require the "safety" of an audio forum's moniker. I'm NOT afraid to admit what my real name is nor am I afraid to admit what my real address is. That's what happens when someone like myself behaves like a grown man should and does. POLLYinFLA on the other hand behaves like a scared, sick, demented little 12 year old boy trapped in a man's body. His constant childish taunts desperately requires the "safety" the anonymity of a moniker provides. Otherwise somewhere, someday, when Polly least expects it, someone might actually want to pay him a visit to discuss just how funny all his "joking" & "needling" really was to them! That way they can laugh about it all together.
But Polly really doesn't want to happen. For some strange reason Polly feels that if someone wants to talk with him face-to-face about his "joking" & "needling" they are threatening him. I cannot imagine why Polly would feel this way if he was honestly "joking" & "needling" as he claims. After all "if" all Polly's taunts were honestly simple "joking" & "needling" like he claims they are, how or why would anyone possibly be offended? Is it possible that in his heart Polly knows he really wasn't "joking" & "needling" and perhaps that is what scares him? Or is it possible that Polly has been told by some of the people that are the brunt of his "joking" & "needling" that it doesn't feel like "joking" & "needling" to them? Is it possible that after being told this, Polly simple said to himself "I don't care how they feel about what I say." and just continued taunting some people anyway knowing they didn't recieve his comments as "joking" & "needling?"
Fortunately for POLLYinFLA I happen consider him to be just like an itch I cannot scratch or like a dog barking late at night when I'm trying to sleep, i.e. he's a certainly a great big pain-in-the-ass but he's also definitely he's not even worthy of my time and effort it would take to actually threaten him. Besides based on how Polly posts I honestly believe he's has the mental capacity of a child and I don't believe anyone should threaten children. Anyone who might want to visit Polly should consider that IMHO Polly would probably behave like a little girl and call the police..."Help me please I'm being threatened, by a great big man!" Hopefully one day HEMORRHOIDinFLA will grow up, act like a man, and actually start discussing different audio POVs as opposed to constantly taunting and insulting everyone whom he disagrees with. Hopefully that will happen, but me? I'm definitely not holding my breath...
My address is:
Tom Scata
1450 Marsh Creek Ln
Orlando, Fla. 32828Email is:
thetubeguy(at)yahoo.com
you two have more in common than differences. Can I suggest forming an alliance against me and May Belt? You could call it, oh, I don't know, something like the Knucklehead Alliance. Yeah, that seems about right.
That was a much funnier read than the description of how some of your "products" work. Or maybe I just don't get the humor.
Perhaps you haven't noticed this yet, but except for those unscrupulous individuals who are just here to make a buck, the participants in these fora are less likely to have problems with each other over that which brought us all here (a love of recorded music) than they are over the personality disorders that become glaringly obvious when filtered over the 'net.There's really no need to ally against you and Mrs. Belt. You two already do a superb job of ridiculing whatever credibility you might ever have had. Reading your posts is a bit like watching a car-wreck: gruesome and sad, but fascinating nonetheless.
I think "Knucklehead Alliance" is already taken, by the way. It's a sub-set of Tweaks, and is specifically identified as the home of tweakers who simply refuse to acknowledge that they were taken.
Cordially back,
Mr. Young
Yaaaawn
Maybe you realized you had me confused with AJ? Really, Geoff: "ninth grade personal attacks and such???" What post were you reading? I guess I'll accept the act of deletion as a de facto apology.
Actually, now that you bring it up, I would not retract the "ninth grade personal attacks" portion of the post I deleted. Generally speaking, I find your posts boring and unoriginal.
I didn't "bring it up, Geoff," you did. And clearly either you don't read my posts, or you have missused "unoriginal." There aren't many people here calling for a curbing of the type of bad behavior AJ participates in. If you had read the thread in question, you'd understand that. But be that as it is, since you find my posts so "boring and unoriginal," why not go pick on someone who has a higher than 9th grade comprehension level? Really being a bit unfair here, ae you?I hope your days are nice, as I'm sure you have a lot of trouble sleeping at night.
You seem to have some compulsion to keep responding on this thread. You will make a good stalker if you work a little harder on it, like adding a little more zip and originality to your posts.You display the same attributes you accuse AJ of in terms of personal attacks without substance, which is why I posted on this thread to begin with.
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Robert,POLLYinFLA thinks of himself as a hot shit sitting in a champagne glass when the sad reality is he's only lukewarm diarrhea floating in a dixie cup!
Go back and read his posts. He seldom if ever says anything intelligent about audio. If when he isn't being hateful in the guise of "joking" & needling" he talks like some uneducated moron. His comments here: "Nice looking woofers. Wonder who makes?" sounds like something a 6 year old would say instead of an adult.
POLLYinFLA typically prefers to berate & disparage anything & anyone that doesn't line up with his views on audio. This is all done in a "joking & needling" manner, or so he claims. As I said many times before POLLYinFLA acts like a sick child that likes to torment animals. I can see him as a child prodding a pitbull with stick feeling secure in the knowledge that the chain will protect him. Just like he feels safe prodding people here on PHP feeling secure in the knowledge that his moniker anonymity will protect him.
Well one day the chain is going to break or he'll misjudge it's length and the dog will get him. I can see him now running home crying to mommy "I was only petting the dog" just like he says to me "I was only joking & needling you." I don't know how many times this idiot needs to be told, IF the person you are "joking & needling" doesn't recieve it as "joking & needling" it ceases to be so!
Yet in POLLYinFLA's sick, twisted, demented mind he believes those he irritates are the ones who needs therapy. This demented horses ass is the one who gets enjoyment out of provoking people and then telling them they have anger problems. The idiot doesn't even see the difference between anger and being irritated. I see him as an irritating little child. You don't get angry with an irritating child, you discipline them! I'd love to see this sick SOB stand in a crowd of some hate group and shout out something they'd find offensive and then tell them I was only "joking" & needling" you. Of course we all know that would never happen. POLLYinFLA only "jokes" & "needles" when a length of chain or PC anonymity prevents those from telling who's actually doing it.
After I've pointed out his atrocious behavior to him many times, and not seeing any change whatsoever in his postings, I'm not sure there is anything to be gained by any further discourse.Many kids who were playground bullies grew up and moved into civil society. He can't seem to. Or alternatively, he never was a bully growing up: he could have been a victim, who only now has found the opportunity get back at the world, an opportunity granted only by the anonymity of the internet. Either way, I feel sorry for him. He can't seem to come to grips with the concept of why there are basic rules of behavior that form the core of civilized society, nor can he understand that this hobby we're in is supposed to be fun.
If I were you (and believe me, I'll do my best to take my own advice here), I'd refrain from replying to him AT ALL. No more name-calling, no more defense against ridiculous statements. Just let it go. Those people with whom you would probably enjoy listening to music already know were you're coming from: those with whom you would never spend time, like PatD or AJinFLA, well, who cares what they think or post??
It does seem that you finally got to one of them though, as two of your posts wound up in Whiner's, even after generating quite a long thread-count. Someone must have complained...Anyway, Tom, I hope you can ignore these guys: time is better spent listening to music. Me, I'll try to do the same....
Robert,I agree with you 100%. POLLYinFLA besides being obnoxious with his constant taunts in the name of "joking" & "needling" is acting like a demented child. He must have been the victim as child like you suggested, because I gave him my real name and address so he could act like a man and say these comments to my face. How did POLLYinFLA react to that? He immediately whined to everyone that I was threatening him.
I'm going to do my best to follow your advice and try to ignore this pain-in-the-ass. Like I said he doesn't make me angery like he wants so desperately believe he does. POLLYinFLA is just irritating like an itch you cannot reach to scratch. Or dog constantly barking at night when you want to sleep.
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