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In Reply to: For what it's worth... posted by Jim Austin on March 11, 2007 at 12:38:57:
I would say that you prejudged the chip, even before you tried it. I would find you an unreliable witness in this case, and I am surprised that you have not excluded yourself from any listening tests with the chip.
Follow Ups:
...and now I'm to be criticized or listening? Sheesh!
Listening, AFTER you trashed me for hearing a difference is biased listening.
LOL
The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
You are just being stupid again, man. Wellfed did not walk into the trap that they were setting for him. I would have never bothered in the first place.
Lord Curlvader, the farce may not be as strong in you as previously thought. This should be an easy million for you. Shame. Think of all the capacitors you could buy.
Perhaps Master Johnsiwan of the Boston order of the Jedi might feel the inkling to be $1 mil richer, or can he not detect the presence of the farce in these chips?cheers,
AJ
The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
It's really QUITE sad that people actually believe that it is. I had my doubts going in, but I can tell you with certainty from personal experience, the JREF Challenge is NOT any more real than 'professional' wrestling. Some people fall for it, some don't.
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The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
You learned that it's hard to beat someone at their own game.I learned that professional wrestling isn't real. Please be aware that every trailer park resident in central Indiana now knows your name... and they shore ain't happy with ya'll! :)
Thanks for the heads up. ;-)
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One Example of Contradictions
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Originally posted by Wellfed
Do you have evidence of me contradicting myself?
Sir,
You do contradict yourself. Here's an hour's research on just your commitment to do a DBT. In particular, I note that you used the volunteer resources of the Forum Members to development your DBT protocol and then never used that protocol.Regards,
GulliverThe evidence:
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Originally posted by edthedoc 03-30-2005 04:38 AM, Page 5 of Audio Critic Thread
Wellfed, it would be so easy for you to do a simple double blind trial in the comfort of your own home. It would save everyone a lot of time, and you a lot of embarrassment. Please think about doing this before you go any further.Quote:
Originally posted by Wellfed 03-24-2005 11:14 AM, Page 5 of Audio Critic Thread, quoting and referring to edthedoc's post above
Thanks, now that I have a methodology I will do just that. I have to wait for another GSIC to arrive which will happen early next week.Quote:
Originally posted by Wellfed 03-30-2005 09:55 PM, Page 5
For those interested, I will definitely have performed some type of DBT with the GSIC by April 10.Quote:
Originally posted by Wellfed 03-31-2005 04:35 PM, Page 6
I will be doing my own DBT sometime next week, presumably on the weekend, and will report my results on Monday April 11th, or sooner. At that time I will be in contact with the recommended local observer to set up a test for August 2005Quote:
Originally posted by Wellfed 04-04-2005 10:32 AM, Page 8
On another note, as you know I plan to do some blind testing on myself this coming weekend. This presupposes to some degree assistance from family members. Since they have little patience for my audiophile pursuits can you give me any suggestions for testing myself with minimal assistance by others? My intent is to return with the results of my own test on Monday, April 11th. I don't have the luxury of multiple GSIC's to work with. I have one unspent chip along with two spent devices.Quote:
Originally posted by Wellfed, 04-09-2005 02:28 PM, Page 10
Due to the turmoil of recent events I have decided to postpone the self-testing I proposed for this weekend. I have found that the agitation of mind has become so great at this time as to disallow for a valid result. View the complete record regarding my claim if you are curious as to why I would choose the following course.I am going to take a few weeks off and then, with the assistance of Steve Eddy, submit to testing in a valid and fair environment, free of distraction and contention. I will be submitting a protocol proposal to Kramer by midweek as originally planned. I have no plans to view JREF Forum content until the testing with Steve Eddy has been completed.
Cluck cluck cluck cluck, waffle waffle waffle.
cheers,
AJ
The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
I strongly suspect Kramer was banking on that. I can't say I understand why he desired to pull the wool over sceptical eyes though.What do you make of the lie Kramer resorted to? What purpose do you think he had in mind? What place do lies have for an organization supposedly committed to truth? Why do you think Kramer chose to pop open this little gem on April 26th, 2005?
Now have you tried placing some of these unspent Intelligent Chips on your head?cheers,
AJ
The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
Why wouldn't people be up in arms over it? How would people react if I had done the same thing? How can you, and so many others, be SO clueless about this fact?If you care to continue discussing the matter, I insist that you at least address the first question. Why WOULD Kramer lie about our negotiations? Why would he lie like this shortly after I had appraised him that I would be tabling the matter until after my granddaughters birth if he continued to deal with me in bad faith.
I'm all for having a good time around here, but I'd really like a serious and considered response from you this one time at the least.
...it could be billed as Wellfed vs The Amazing Randi ... in a no holds barred one-fall grudge match! :)
Wellfed vs. The Miscreant Administrator ... Will Good prevail over Evil?I choose to think good and happy thoughts about James Randi himself. Perhaps I'm naive. ;-)
> I choose to think good and happy thoughts about James Randi himself. Perhaps I'm naive. ;-) <If you choose to believe something that has no basis in scientific or rational fact, you're a subjectivist! LOL
Someone did try to win the million using the IC and failed. So you think they were affraid of you ? They actually know that the chip works ? They are covering-up the evidences ?
...is that they were afraid of the test being limited to 10 iterations. This being outside what they'd have preferred from a statistical standpoint.Contrary to what AJinFLA would like to believe, I didn't run away from the Challenge. I simply put the matter on hold after it became apparent that Kramer was incapable of negotiating in good faith.
I had a number of personal events slated to occur over the summer of '05 that I wasn't willing to have disturbed by the acrimony and uncertainty JREF created in the negotiations. The most significant being the anticipated birth of my first grandchild.
The straw that broke the camels back was this assertion from Kramer on the JREF Forum
Good One !!!
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Originally posted by Wellfed
I have considered being my own observer...]That's a good one, and an entirely different paranormal claim. You'll have to send in a new application...especially since I haven't heard a peep from you since last week when you promised a new protocol within hours.
A most curious, deafening silence.
Oh, and by the way, Piano Teacher is who he claims to be.
Did anyone here really accuse him of being something else?
If so, I must have missed it.The reality of the matter is I had written to him via email twice the previous day dealing with a sticking point involving the protocol, one of the correspondences he actually responded back to me on. A most curious bit of bullshit, wouldn't you say?
Also, the sticking point I refer to was created by JREF, AFTER I had promised that a revised protocol would be forthcoming shortly. He knew only too well that I was working on a solution to the protocol vanity that JREF themselves had introduced. He also chose to twist the 'my own observer' comment, the context of which being discussion of what it would take for me to drop my own requirement of having my own observer present to monitor the integrity of the JREF testers. The JREF Forum integrity concern being that my own observer could conceivably alert me by the use of bird calls emanating from a loudspeaker set up outside my home.
Bear in mind that this 'crisis' is only one example showing JREF incapable of negotiating in good faith. This came on the heals of another battle that established that I was only required to do 10 identifications, per my original claim.
I could go on... If you are truly interested in learning the truth, I will.
x
You're gonna' love me. That's a given. :-)
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The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
Just click on any of the files to hear a subjectivist discuss why he backed out of being tested/exposed.cheers,
AJ
The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
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