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In Reply to: Re: who said anything about unsubstantiated claims? posted by geoff_j on February 25, 2007 at 19:26:42:
Why is it so difficult to answer such a simple question? Here it is in English one more time. Do you use ABX when auditioning components and why or why not?
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read the first sentence dimwit !!!
asswipe. Now why don't you answer the question? what are you afraid of?
sorry, but if you haven't the intelligence to read that first sentence, and see that it clearly answers both your questions, then it is pointless continuing !!
non-answer, and certainly doesn't add any information or insight into the "dialogue."After 70 or so posts, you've done a fine job of channelling Soundmind in the anger department. Congrats.
your lack of anything resembling understand becomes you.
But they don't answer my questions. If you don't have the inteligence to understand the difference between your vague declaration and a direct answers to very specific questions then you are an idiot. That you avoid answering those questions in so many posts with all this hand waving and name calling makes it pretty obvious that you really don't want to answer the questions at all. Gee I wonder why? Guess I did strike a nerve.
dude you are a joke
Oh crickey, I can't believe you are so THICK !!!
ok not ine syllable... but at least you MIGHT understand !!
gees I can't type !!ine = one just in case you are sooooo dim you couldn't figure it out
NOI'm not trying to sell something.
Why don't you use it?
because I/'m not like the rock and clock guys.. I do't need to prove anything to anyone, because I'm not trying to sell anything.
gees you are so darn thick its unbelieveable.you don't even understand basic statements.
how do you possibly function in life except by your own unjustified ego !
....am I trying to persuade anyone but myself that something is worth buying or even looking at.If you think you hear a difference in something, say just that.
Say, that you "think you hear a difference", DO NOT say that "there is a difference" unless you are PREPARED TO PROVE IT !!
geoff,I'd like to address this post of yours, hopefully without a lot of the typical stupidity that passes for responses to legitiment questions, ok?
You started this post by saying "...am I trying to persuade anyone but myself that something is worth buying or even looking at." While it's fairly obvious to me you're not attempting to persuade anyone but yourself geoff, I believe that statement would hold true for most if not all of us who purchase components for our audio systems. I believe we all come from the same POV you mentioned above. I definitely know when I purchased my amp I didn't do it to persuade anyone but myself that it was worth buying or even looking at.
Next geoff you said, "If you think you hear a difference in something, say just that." Well geoff I, along with almost every audiophile/music lover that exists buys a given component precisely because we think we hear a difference in something, no? I mean what other reason would one buy a new audio component? ONLY for looks? I honestly don't know anyone who ever changed audio components strictly because it looked prettier or better do you? Now I won't say that looks wouldn't matter at all. I can imagine someone looking to upgrade and while doing so they see 2 amps that while sounding the same as each other, sound much better than what he presently owns. Now this person might be willing to pay a little more for what he believes is the better looking amp. But he paid mainly for the better sound and then paid extra for better looks! This person knows he paid extra for the better looks and so he isn't fooling himself.
geoff you stated people should Say, that you "think you hear a difference", DO NOT say that "there is a difference" unless you are PREPARED TO PROVE IT !! Now geoff doesn't everyone who purchases a component believe they hear a difference? If not why wouldn't we all buy the cheapest solidstate amp with as much power as possible? Geoff you bought what you bought because you "think you hear a difference" I bought what I bought because I "think I hear a difference" etc. I'm sure most everyone here bought what they did because they "think you hear a difference." Now if you think you heard a difference you most likely believe there is a difference or esle what do you think you're hearing?
Trust me geoff as much as many of the lunatic-fringe objectivists would proclaim differently I understand this concept. But I also know objectivists only require proof when subjectivists say they "think they hear a difference"!
Thetubeguy1954
I am speaking of the CHARLITANS of this world, like Belt and co, and the rock and clock guys.they have absolutely no foundation in any known modern science, and yet ask ridiulous prices for basically nothing.
It is really such a pity that there seem to be people who actually accept their tripe without any thought, because it riuns it for anything that may actually be an advancement.
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