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In Reply to: Comments on Kait posted by apesma on February 7, 2007 at 09:37:22:
Setting that aside, it's sincerely good to hear from you.BTW, the Attorney General in Florida chose to ignore my complaint against JREF, at least they never informed me of any action taken against them. C'est la vie.
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If Randi has no proof than Kait can sue for libel. But he hasn't. Just wondering why Kait would let someone libel him?
;-)
If money is the problem how about Judge Judy? And we could all watch.
Jerry Springer. I know I'd tune in. ;-)
Why on earth would the Attorney General in Florida honor your complaint against JREF? What merit does it have?
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"Nature loves to hide."
---Heraclitus of Ephesus (trans. Wheelwright)
Exactly where it should be.Why on earth would the Attorney General in Florida honor your complaint against JREF? What merit does it have?
Because they solicit and accept donations from the public under false pretense. In their "About the Foundation" area of their website they state that one of their functions is
To raise public awareness of these issues, the Foundation offers a $1,000,000 prize to any person or persons who can demonstrate any psychic, supernatural or paranormal ability of any kind under mutually agreed upon scientific conditions. This prize money is held in a special account which cannot be accessed for any purpose other than the awarding of the prize.
Unfortunately their refusal to negotiate in good faith, including the use of lies and misrepresentations, does not allow for the mutual agreement necessary for the Challenge to become an actuality, in my case at any rate. I don't know what kind of shenanigans they pull with other applicants. The lies and misrepresentations I allude to have been well documented and are safely in my possession.
The stakes are clearly too high and the interest is not in the truth but in protecting the million bucks. Too bad really. I think debunking claims made by people who are really willfully decieving the public and taking their money is a noble thing. I think unfortunately there is a breed of skeptic that isn't nearly as interested in the truth as they are in being right and "the opposition" being wrong. It is a mean spirited ego driven endevour with these folks and it is just plain nasty. There was a time when I think Randi really was doing us all a service. I think it has devolved into a Jerry Springer type side show.
I was a Randi Challenge applicant and there were a few people on their forum that exhibited good character, not many though. Kramer, the Challenge administrator, was ridiculously deceitful, and just plain pickled I think.
The AG of Florida has time to take every crackpots complaint seriously? Can you imagine how many complaints they get from mentally deranged individuals?
Why don't you channel your psychic powers into something useful, like lottery ticket numbers, instead of complaining?cheers,
AJ
I contend that we are both atheists; I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours
...are they?
Is it any wonder that a person with poor hearing and even poorer listening skills would attribute psychic powers to someone with normal hearing and excellent listening skills, rather than dealing with their own disabilities?
as somewhat akin to DB, only in AJinFLA's subtract the brain!
The fact that Kait et al bank accounts are funded by feeble minds?
Or the "fact" that people really see ghosts?BTW, do you still have the x-ray glasses you saw in the back of comic books as a child...and just had to buy?
You know, the only way to see and experience for yourself if they really worked.cheers,
AJ
I contend that we are both atheists; I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours
JREF did perform a test of the GSCI for one person, one who was straightforward and did not insist on conditions that could possibly bias the test.
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"Nature loves to hide."
---Heraclitus of Ephesus (trans. Wheelwright)
nt
Well, it's a little hard to determine just what conditions you insisted on and those you were just persistent about.1-You wanted to treat the CDs. JREF sees no problem with this, but I would have stopped things right there.
2-You wanted to be able to see your system during the test.
3-You wanted to change the CDs yourself, which would involve you handling the CDs.
4-The unnecessary spent chip.
In addition, it seems you were not able to agree to some issues about observers.
They complain you kept bringing up issues previously settled.
You also had difficulty setting a date for the test, something you really should have figured out beforehand.
It also seems you took your discussions to the forums, that you used ungentlemanly language on the forums, claimed the JREF offer was not real, threatened legal action, and so on.
All in all, you weren't a very easy person to work with and they were more patient than I would be. I am not saying the JREF rep couldn't have acted somewhat better, but I really don't think it would have helped.
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"Nature loves to hide."
---Heraclitus of Ephesus (trans. Wheelwright)
If you're truly interested in learning the truth, contact me privately. Typing this forensic stuff is for the birds.For the record, the ungentlemanly language you refer to consisted of one word; bullshit.
Is that they are going to offer this type of audiophool/paranormal/psychic testing, then not fully expect the only applicants to be deranged, deeply disturbed individuals?
Who will then immediately call the AG crackpot complaint hotline.
What were they thinking?cheers,
AJ
I contend that we are both atheists; I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours
"Perceiving things the untrained man on the street can't"-AJ
I contend that we are both atheists; I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours
nt
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