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......and why do so many people hate it?Thanks.
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No-Noise, is a noise reduction system forming part of Sonic Solutions audio editors on macs. Along with Cedar, they are the two best commercial systems available, albeit at a price! Like many tools, they are very powerful, but have to be used with extreme care. To often people get power crazy with the amount of noise that can be removed and overdo it, this has lead to many poor noise reduction jobs, done by inexperienced or injudicial engineers. If handled correctly significant improvements can be made to previously awful masters that otherwise would never see light of day. Well done noise reduction is virtually "invisible", but the downside is removing noise from old masters often shows up other inadaquecies of the original recordings previously masked. As in all mastering work its a judgement call, having used Cedar noise reduction I can tell you its impressive (I haven't used No-noise, but its of a similar standard). Channel 4 television in the UK bought a complete suite of Cedar products for cleaning up the audio tracks of old films. Suddenly you were aware of the ambience in the room and the dialogue was much clearer. Infinitely better than the original. From the point of view of being able to listen to many old classical and jazz performances its benefit is clear, and I would suggest you listen to old restored material before you buy, and if the sound is acceptable to you, given the musical performance I would not let yourself be put off.Regards
Roland
.....I was asking because many posts on Blue Note's and DCC's forums mention this system. They usually say it takes away some of the music with the noise, but could that be when it is misused? Some albums I have like Miles Davis' Kind of Blue have a lot of hiss in them and I find this very distracting. But even though it has nothing to do with the music, some people still think it should be there--it's "history", they sometimes say--and abhor using any noise reduction techniques.I have three of Capitol's "Ultra-Lounge" series of CDs (these recordings are from the 50's and 60's) and many of the tracks sound excellent: clear, non-grainy highs, voices with no siblance characteristics, solid & 3D stereo image, etc., with no trace of tape hiss. The word "lush" comes to mind when listening to these. I have lots of modern recordings that don't sound nearly as good! If any music is "missing" I'm not aware of it. Question: The packaging says it uses 20bit remastering-is this just marketing hype or a real improvement over regular 16bit techniques?
Well of course any system that removes noise, will also tend ro remove other things as well, hence my comment that good engineering is as important as the kit itself. There are a lot of people who listen too these sorts of things that can be really akin to trainspotters when it comes to authenticity, but as you rightly say a carefully done resoration can be an infinite improvement. as for processing with 20 bit 24 bit or anything other, I would not take any notice of that. I heard a "20 bit" recording, done by Sony classical of one of my clients, and it was covered with 16 bit reverb. I knew this for sure, as I had recorded in the same venue which has no natural ambience. First rule of recording, if it sounds good it is good.
Regards
Roland
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