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I bought a Lynx, because I'm eventually gonna do room correction and triamping.What about if you're only doing digital out?
How much is the quality of the digital out affected?
Recommendations for a friend here that doesn't want to go the bucks to get a Lynx22
Comments anyone?
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Use USB optical Toslink digital out, but do not power the USB device from the computer through the USB cable. Instead, use its own external wall-wart, or if it does not have a power adapater, plug it into an externally powered USB hub.
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based on your request, this sure works for me. Great sound, stable drivers, not fussy to install, configure & run
It does make a difference. The ultimate card is the Lynx AES-16 digital only card, it's got a great clock on it and some unique clock locking stuff on it.But I don't know much about other brands. The onboard digital outs have typically sounded pretty crappy to my ears.
What about for a Mac; however I do need it to do up to 96k as some of the recordings I have are 24/96. Just need digital out and only 2 channel. Have an outboard DAC. Would have liked to use the Lynx L22 but it does not do Mac core audio. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
The Lynx site says it DOES work on macs (except that multicard applications are only suppoerted on OSX not OS9). This may be a fairly recent development as I concluded as you did whe I was looking in to this a few years ago.Here is just one link that mentions installing on a mac:
Wow, thanks, you made my day. You were right, when I first looked at this card it only had OS9 support. But now that it supports core audio I am all set. Thanks again.
BTW, are you a Mac user and if so what are you using?
Sorry, i was thinking about Mac, but I wanted this card, and a few years ago, Mac wasn't supported, so I just ruled Mac out.There is something to be said for keeping it simple.
The Juli@ (at less than $150) was found to equal the Lynx Two for 2-channel digital out.
Thanks Laznos!I wonder if ESI's DSP "Patchmix" software can be used to route audio streams to the digital output as well... if so, this would be an excellent value and preclude the need to use ASIO4ALL and Virtual Audio Cable to get audio from the player to the output.
Cards that are ASIO capable do NOT always have the ability to route software generated streams to the output, and can only stream data from the physical inputs to the physical outputs. (Some ASIO cards have this functionality in their drivers and others do not - especially the more economical ones which are geared towards multichannel-surround as opposed to prosumer mixing/editing.)
Cheers,
Presto
I have this card, but only use it for analog. The DirectWire feature works perfectly well with ASIO, I have used it for recording online streams.Don't see how it wouldn't work for digital out, but I haven't tried it.
Well, there are two ways to go, but the problem is that getting digital out the "good" way is just as expensive as getting "analog" out the best way. For example, getting digital out using Lynx would be to get an AES16 - which is two-thirds the price of a 2B and has NO DACs on it!! You could also go with a USB solution that has SPDIF output. Funny thing, most folks going with USB solutions are doing so to AVOID spdif on the other end and take I2S directly to the DACs.The way to go "on the cheap" is to get a PCI card that does two very important things:
a) it will pass through 44.1khz without resampling to 48khz. Do not confuse this with a Windows Kmixer issue - it's a similar problem but different. Even if windows kmixer is bypassed (using ASIO for example) your card could STILL be resampling to 48 or 96 khz if that is what the driver of your card is set up to do with the digital output. C-media cards, for example, only allow the user to select 48 or 96khz as output options - not 44.1 khz. It will PLAY 44.1khz files, but only after resampling them to 48khz.
b) it will be ASIO compliant for the SPDIF output (if you want ASIO) For example, my M-Audio Revolution 7.1 has ASIO capable analog inputs and outputs, but NOT for the digital output! (Strange!) So I need to use kernel streaming with this card. It bypasses kmixer as ASIO does, but some folks are "dead set" on having ASIO and ASIO drivers for their media players. ASIO is "supposed" to sound better than kernel streaming. Jury is still out on that one if you ask me.
Perhaps if you could tell us what equipment your friend is trying to interconnect we could recommend more specific/specialized solutions.
Apparently, some guys have had great success with affordable Chaintec cards (AV710?) that use the Envy24HT chipset like the M-Audio Revo, but are also ASIO compliant for the digital output (or so I have heard).
Best advice? Ask around! :o)
Cheers,
Presto
Do cheapie cards resample the line-in? I have a USB sound card (a Sound Blaster because it was the cheapest I could find...) that I use just for the line input for recording. I know that Creative cards resample to 48K analog or digital... do they also resample the input or otherwise crap it up somehow? I can't see why they would, but I can't see why they'd resample the output, either. Enquiring minds want to know...I'd say the jury's really out on ASIO vs. kernel-streaming. I use ASIO2KS -- which, if I understand right, is really just KS anyway or at least isn't true ASIO -- with my USB-to-S/PDIF converter and it sounds better to me than the SB with the USB-ASIO driver. Might be placebo (and that's very likely), but it could just be that the USB adapter's putting out 44.1kHz/s for sure while that damned card might just be upsampling the data regardless (though the ASIO output options are 44.1, 48, and 96). In any case, it's not a total waste of money because the USB-ASIO driver works with the M-Audio Audiophile USB card, which I'm planning on getting sometime or another in the coming months. Maybe, maybe not; I'll see how happy I am with the DAC I'm getting and if I'm perfectly satisfied I'll nix that.
From what I understand, the Audiophile has its own external power supply. Is there a big difference from using USB power?
He's going to build a Rakk Dac, from forum sponsor K & K, and wants to go from the sound card into it.I'm thinking E-MU 0404 is the way to go -
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