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In Reply to: REVENGE PART 3 is ready posted by opinionated on March 13, 2007 at 07:19:24:
I had guessed Chubby Jackson for #4 and #5, and Teddy Wilson on #3, but Kava arrived first hahaha. It's not that I can recognize Chubby for his playing, I'm not that good, but there weren't many bassist leading bands those years.#1 sounded to me like Lester, and Kava confirmed it. Pianist sounds familiar, but don't know.
#2 Not sure at all so I better save wild guesses
#3 Teddy on piano, maybe Coleman Hawkins on tenor and possibly Jo Jones on drums.
On #4 I suppose the trombone is JJ Johnson and tenorman could be a young Zoot Sims. The trumpet has things that reminds Dizzy, but it's not him, and I doubt he's Harry Edison.
For #5 we know Chubby on bass. Is Conte Candoli on trumpet? I know they played together, but I don't think there was a vibist at their dates...
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Yes, that's Conte Candoli on trumpet on #5, and Hawk on tenor on #3. The other new names you've put out there are not correct, but I don't think I would have got Candoli myself in any test. I should have said less about the last two, it didn't occur to me that mentioning the bass player was the leader would give it away so quickly. It's nice to see guys getting to be so good at this, you and Chapra in particular.
dh
Sometimes one is lucky ;-) My other candidates for the bass leader tracks were Jimmy Blanton, but he never recorded as a leader, and Milt Hinton, so the safest bet was Chubby Jackson and moreover Kava got it right at first shot hahaha. That gave me the clue for Candoli. I like his clear tone and kind of "easy flowing" melody lines, probably not to spot him blindly, but this time I had the help of the leader bassist. I knew that Candoli recorded for Prestige with Jackson. That might help others more knowledgeable to hit the tenor and drummer. I still wonder who can be the vibes player.I'm enjoying this a lot Duane, this set's been great too. Thanks!
Red Norvo. Quite a few terrific trumpets played with Woody. Pete & Conti Candoli, Sonny Berman, Shorty Rogers, Bernoe Glow, Ernie Royal - so darned many possibilities.Howard McGhee played trumpet with Chubby as did Neal Hefti!
"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain
xo
that Gibbs fella?
"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain
I suspected of him, that of the white vibist left not many options...
dh
Sometimes I'd rather watch.
....bada-BOOM!I knew you would hear this stuff very easily. It's cool to have others offering clues. I wonder how many folks would have got Chubby Jackson figured out, just as one example. I don't think it would be hard for you to find another record by this same band and get it by me without me figuring it out if *I* didn't get that clue at the same time. The associations with Woody suggested by several here were a revelation of the obvious to me. Maybe that's because I don't have any of Herman's full-band personnel even close to memorizedm, I don't know....gotta go.
dh
I got his big and small band stuff, at least some of them. On the big band he used two bass players so he could chearlead more. He seemed to always play at the higher register of the bass, I guess it was easier for him. He always had great cats in his bands.
The vibes player is more than likely a white cat but there I go....I said I wouldn't get involved. With Chubby you got to think Woody Herman and some white cats except maybe for the trumpet on #5 (I think). The trombone player would probably be a white cat also. I may be off-bass with these but we shall see.
The Jackson/Candoli thing was actually recorded for a small label called Rainbow Records. Nothing wrong with using contextual clues to figure out who the others are. That's how you make EDUCATED guesses :-).
dh
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