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In Reply to: MMG OWNERS ,PREPARE TO BE AMAZED : APOGEE CALIPER CROSSOVER ADAPTED TO MMG posted by Jacques T on March 9, 2007 at 22:28:52:
Yes, everyone can make the maggies sound better even mod or change the XOs even make better frame after all mag's designers haven't get a clue what the h*ll they're doing.
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Henry
You're right. I'm sorry. It's just hard to resist the temptation to defend Magnepan against such outrageous statements. Even you shot back one quick reply. Oh well, it's time for a visit from our good moderator! It's just too bad Jacques' original thread will have to be sacrificed (or will it?).
Henry
I know, but I *was* feeding him.
Are you serious? Their recipe is absolutely brilliant. Their speakers sound excellent as they are designed and what a design they have for manufacturing and shipping efficiency! It would be very difficult, if not downright impossible, to find anything that can equal their sound in a dollar to dollar comparison. Does that sound like the product of a clueless company to you?Do they cut corners here and there? Yes. Doesn't everyone? Okay, with the exception of a few manufacturers like Wilson, the answer has to be affirmative. Cut corners are a blessing as they contain costs and provide those interested in redressing such shortcomings the possibility of making improvements. Can those of us who are brave (and handy) enough to rework our Maggies improve on their products? Yes we can, but that doesn't mean the original product was crap. As the saying goes, "You can't polish a turd."
Your statement is not only blasphemous, but it demonstrates a complete misapprehension of our goals as tweakers. I'm certain that you won't find one supporting voice among those of us who have modified our Maggies. We'll all tell you the same thing, "Magnepan is a brilliant speaker manufacturer."
Thank you Mr. Whiney!
you're a dick wazoo
Why, because he had a reasoned, astute reply to a stupid one, and rightly pointed out the posters lack of understanding?You could kind of say the original poster took it up the wazoo...
I don't really care what anyone thinks of me. This whole thread has gone way off track and I'm sorry for my part in taking it there. It just irritates me when someone makes such offensive statements about Magnepan. You and I know the truth, and that should be enough for us.I wasn't trying to "fan the flames" as it were. I just hoped I could enlighten a misguided (in my humble opinion) individual about why Magnepan isn't clueless. The last comment (about washing his mouth out with soap) was meant to be funny.
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I'll wager they know grammar a bit better than you do."
Henry
mag's designers haven't get a clue what the h*ll they're doing.I don't think there are any here who think that. The ones who have done the mods, etc. will be the first to tell you that he Mag designers do a hell of a lot with run of the mill parts and for their given price points you simply can't beat their speakers.
If they used better parts they would have to hit much higher price points, and well they probably wouldn't be around.
The fact that you can significantly improve them with some mods, is icing on the cake.
They know what they are doing. They are building fine speakers for reasonable prices, while making enough profit to stay in business.A person can determine where Magnepan has (for good reason) had to cut corners, and investing a little time and money make the speakers better for his own application.
Cars, houses, and most other consumer goods can all be tweaked in similar ways by a DIYer.
You can even take grandma's chocolate chip cookie recipe and modify it. That doesn't mean grandma didn't know what she was doing!
> > > You can even take grandma's chocolate chip cookie recipe and modify it < < <One wouldn't dare!
Good points though!
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