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In Reply to: Re: 90% (Not even close) posted by John Chleapas on April 12, 2007 at 00:28:06:
JohnMaybe I'm a little slow on the up-take. It took me to the end of Lorne Gunter's article to realize that it was supposed to be humorous. This guy's funny: "Water vapour is the most abundant greenhouse gas, yet scientists will admit they understand very little about its impact on global warming". This funny non-sequiter would imply that scientists don't understand the global effects of clouds on the weather, but Mr. Gunter does. He then goes on to describe his speculative theory of how water vapor functions in the planetary scheme "(it may actually help cool the planet: As the earth heats up, water vapour may form into more clouds and reflect solar radiation before it reaches the surface. Maybe. We don't know.". Naw, really? The scientists Gunter is satirizing must have been home schooled with 19th century texts.
As to the computer models siming global warming having been flawed, computer models are only as accurate as the information you feed into them. Carbon dioxide levels can be accurately measured way back through pre- historic times using arctic ice core samples. Now you're way ahead of me in seeing tree hugger grant money behind these studies, and a possible green thumb on the scales.
Now for the U.N. trying to gain control of the internet to redistribute the wealth. You'll have to elaborate on this, the current U.N. is about as effective as a fart in a windstorm. You must mean some potential super U.N. of the future, like the Empire in Star Wars?
I wish you would have put the" man portable nukes" stuff before the UN joke. I can see a man portable dirty bomb though. The last time we saw a hydrogen bomb (after a 60's plane crash) they were about the size of a naval torpedo. Anyone who could lift one of these, not to mention carry it, would be a force to reckon with in their own right.
Now that MBTE stuff looks like a cause that both liberals and conservatives can get behind. You mention trillions spent on research to stop volcanic eruptions, but I can't tell once again if you're yanking my chain or not. I'll bite: how will they do it? Either stop the volcanos or get the trillions will be good..
Someone needs to correlate all this with the price of plywood. I'm betting on a bull plywood market, so build your horns now guys!. Anyone wanna take bear?
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You said, "Someone needs to correlate all this with the price of plywood. I'm betting on a bull plywood market, so build your horns now guys!. Anyone wanna take bear?"Actually I posted after you tossed out a post with some political comments mixed in. I figured this is simply giving the other side a voice. In this case it is the real verifiable Science itself that has proven the Global Warming Alarmists are all full of hot air only.
Actually the 100 plus missing suitcase nukes only weigh around 100 pounds each. That is easily portable. They were basically designed for small two man teams to deliver. The Russians made these to level the field when America designed the first man portable tactical nukes around 1965. I have to wonder how Russia "lost" something like 110 of these things? You lose car keys, or your wallet. Not 100 portable nukes.. That is far more dangerous to me than the false global warming fairy tales.
You said, "Now for the U.N. trying to gain control of the internet to redistribute the wealth. You'll have to elaborate on this, the current U.N. is about as effective as a fart in a windstorm. You must mean some potential super U.N. of the future, like the Empire in Star Wars?"
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8CUKA481&show_article=1
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0916/p08s02-comv.html
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/10/17/dont_give_un_control_over_internet/
Snip; (whole articles below in links) "It claimed to be the opinion of 2,500 leading scientists, but Prof Reiter said it included names of scientists who disagreed with the findings and resigned from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and said the report was finalised by Government appointees.
The CO2 theory is further undermined by claims that billions of pounds is being provided by governments to fund greenhouse effect research, so thousands of scientists know their job depends on the theory continuing to be seen as fact."
http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=CZ434669U&news_headline=global_warming_is_lies_claims_documentary
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm
The last link above is the website with 17,000 plus scientists with over 2/3 of them having earned advanced degrees in the field of Science. They have all signed the petition about the global warming lies. I have a lowly Bachelor of Science degree myself. For the Global Warming fanatics to cry the sky is falling is nuts. To get their papers into any accredited peer review science journal their experiments must be repeatable in real world testing experiments in order to validate their claims. Even the just released UN report warns their yet to be released upcoming study has failed to meet this criteria. For me whenever I read a story like "The Sun is Dimming or a Global Warming" story run in a UK newspaper I just have to roll my eyes. These types of stories always seem to originate in the UK and/or Scotland sadly.
As for my favorite flavor of wood lets make it the good stuff please. Nothing but the rarest old growth will due for me for my first generation of 16 ohm Altec Duplex speakers. John
JohnJust yesterday I heard on the radio (NPR again) that Newt Gingrich has announced that global warming is real! First Dubya, now Newt. They are obviously trying to discredit global warming by lending their support. I'm in a quandry now, and about ready to throw in with you. Perhaps if we tone down the "lie" angle, it might provide for a more reasonable discourse. Some of the more responible links you provided approached it like this.
The man sized nukes seem to have grown to two-man size. I'm still more afraid of dirty bombs though. Well ya pick your phobias and take your chances.
The U.N. doesn't quite come off as the bolsheviks in the links you provided, as your "redistribute the wealth" comment would indicate. I think it's more like "grab a piece of the action". The CS Monitor article ended with this: "Better that the U.S. engage vigorously now in shaping that institution, even as it realizes that handing off control to it is nowhere in the immediate future". Well ya pick your phobias...
I see you have bowed out of the plywood debate by your choice of cabinet wood. Old growth wood is readily available as recycled from demolished timber framed barns. So you don't have to sneak a chainsaw into Yellowstone.
I an also not sure how this has anything to do with plywood. I thought that Birch was not an old growth wood. Am I wrong?
Hi DaveThanks for your suggestion for a course correction for this dreadnaught. As to birch being an old growth wood, it all depends on the supply versus demand. If the demand gets high enough, I'm sure they'll cut up the Spruce Goose with chain saws (it's actually made mostly out of birch plywood). Now I see you capitalized the word "Birch" in your post. Perhaps you meant the John Birch Society, and you are certainly not wrong that this is "old growth wood" to say the least (figuratively speaking of course). Birch is a funny wood (capital B because it begins a sentence here), it can look just like like maple and be nearly as hard as the some varieties, it can also look mahogany with a suitable stain depending on the grain. So where are you at with plywood futures: bull or bear?
I was not referring to the John Birch Society but now that you mention it, I think I'll put on my "John Birch Society Blues" Dylan bootleg. I haven't listened to it in quite some time.Before anybody gets down on me for trafficking in bootlegs, I admit that I do have some bootlegs. However, evey one I have was bought for a $1 each, from cutout bins, in Philadelphia in the 70's. The profiteers never got my money, only Soul Shacks in North Philly.
With regard to the wood birch, I suspect the futures are good. Even if the masse of lemmings want cheap there will always be the select few who want quality (but I have never invested in the futures market).
Have a good weekend!
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