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I've been running eXemplar horns since about 1998 or 1999 (it's been that long?!?!?). For the bulk if the time of ownership I've run without a sub. For a while when I lived in Cleveland I had 2 JBL 18's in my basement as an IB sub. My wife is truly wonderful for letting me cut into 80 year old hardwood floors for that project. I dolled it up with a hammertone finished period heater grate. New owner of the house will never figure that one out, considering it's a steam heat house!Fast forward to 2007 and I just got this used REL on audiogon. What a difference it makes! I'm in a condo in California now, so I can't go to ridiculous ear splitting volume levels with my system, but I do like it a bit loud. So far I'm thrilled with the ease of integration, depth and musicality of bass, and overall system balance. It really shows me what I was missing before.
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...I know U just purchased the unit and while it is KILLER right off the bat, U would not believe the increase in musicality/depth and pitch precision that a Synergistic Research REL SPEC cable will bring :-)I just upgraded to the Resolution Reference pictured and the results are NOT subtle. When budget allows, I highly recommend this upgrade.
Cheers,
I see a cable like this on audiogon for $650 USED ($1100 new). I'll be damned if I ever spend that kind of money on a cable. To put it in perspective, I spent $1600 on the sub, and it made a HUGE difference in the system. To blow $650 (few car payments) on a cable that will make a marginal difference is crazy. How I'd rather spend that money:Pile of LP's and/or CD's
Lots of cold brew and/or red wine
Ticket to NYC, hotel, nice dinner, a ticket to a concertIf anything, I'd spend that money on a used Pass Aleph 3 amp (have to throw in about $200). That would make a hell of a lot bigger change that 9 feet of wire.
...U seem to be offended by the fact that I suggested this?Believe me, the improvements R NOT "marginal"!!
"If anything, I'd spend that money on a used Pass Aleph 3 amp (have to throw in about $200). That would make a hell of a lot bigger change that 9 feet of wire."
U would be DEAD wrong as I own a Pass Labs Aleph 3 and in combination with the REL SPEC RR cable, although on a modified Strata lll, the results were NOT subtle. In my HT system that is powered by a rebuilt EICO 2050 with a Stadium lll augmenting Alon Lotus SE MK lll's, the addition of SR RR REL SPEC cable was anything BUT subtle!!
I was only suggesting an upgrade from one happy REL Stadium lll owner to another BUT only U can make that decision and I am sorry to have seemingly offended U but hearing is believing :-)
Cheers,
~kenster
No offense. I am just a big cable skeptic. I've hear people rave about $1600 power cords and then put them in my system on loan. .5% difference at best, but not necessarily better. Just different. I hear a lot of people go nuts over other tweaks and usually it's marginal. Bottom line, I choose not to spend big bucks on cables, and I don't lose sleep over not getting last ounce of performance out of my system.I could try a heavier gauge cable (the one in the system is quite small), but I wouldn't spend BIG bucks. Maybe a DIY cable would do the trick.
Randy
I understand your cable skepticism and I most assuredly would not have brought it to your attention if I did not have first hand experience with the SR RR REL SPEC cables with regards to the stock REL cable.Heck, even the SR REL SPEC Phase ll cable is a MAJOR step-up up over the stock REL cable and at half the price of the RR, is a heck of a deal! (I just traded in my Phase ll cables for credit towards the RR cables)
Yes, I agree that cables can be thought of as "snake oil" to some, BUT, one cannot convince another with words no more than a magazine article can portray the sound of a component with mere words.
Listening is the only thing that matters in this hobby we share and if U get the chance, I highly recommend U make an informed decision for yourself :-)Cheers and happy listening,
I can get a speakon connector for about $7, and bulk cable. What's the secret of your cable? I saw some plug in deal... I'm thinking about just buying some nice thick cable and a connector and rolling my own, but the plug in business has me intrigued. What's that all about?Should I do 4 cables (hot + ground) x2 or just 3 cables?
"What's the secret of your cable? "The main "secret" is the active shielding but the quality of materials and the craftmanship can't be discounted either :-)
The mini plug, which can be seen at the link provided, is the connection to the active shielding power supply which is a wall-wart that provides 32VDC.
I also like the XLR flying lead with the spade connectors which provides a much cleaner/sturdier installation than the bare wires on the stock cable.
"Should I do 4 cables (hot + ground) x2 or just 3 cables?"
I would start with trying a double run of the cable which would give U 2x for each of the 3 connections if U have enough slack. U might also try soldering the connections in the Speakon connector.
In addition, I have 2 stock cables/connectors just collecting dust and U R welcome to one of them if U want.Cheers,
~kenster
Nice. Those REL subs (strata series) are easy to integrate with OB's too (94dB drivers in my case). I borrowed one from a pal a few months back. By the way, I hope you re-used those 80yr old hardwood slabs! Enjoy.
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