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I was really looking forward to this recording for several reasons.Zinman is a good conductor and this recording included the
rarely used BLUMINE movement. The recording did not move me at all.It's a very straight forward reading.I just got,listened to it twice.Compared it to the Zander/Telarc and Zander really gets it right.still have to compare to Tilson-Thomas.so i'll keep on listening but initally it is a disappontment (and i've pre-ordered the Mahler 2nd from Zinman
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I have not heard Zinman's version, but you should consider the following:Mahler revised this symphony, including instrumentation. Thus, it is not proper to introduce the Blumine into just any version of the symphony. If its going to be done, then the performance should use the original version of the symphony. Otherwise, it would just be something "plugged" in without reference to what has happened in the first movement.
I think there is a recording that uses the original version with the Blumine in its original place, but I can't remember which and if it is still available.
...that used the original version of the 1st, along with the 'Blumine' movement. It was on the Delyse label and was done with (I think) the New Philharmonia Orchestra. AFAIK, it has never been released on CD. I remember the LP as having really awful sound quality (distant, cavernous, indistinct), though the performance was fascinating.The very first recording of the first symphony with 'Blumine', I think, was on an Odyssey LP with Frank Brieff (sp?) conducting something like the New Haven Symphony, but I don't believe the rest of the symphony was done in the original version.
You are right. The one I heard was the Morris LP. At that time I did not buy the LP (now I am sorry I didn't).
It's not much of a performance, but the sonics are OK (nothing special).
James Judd (not SACD though), at least for me. Bargain price and the sonics are very very good!
Was that the one with the Florida Orchestra? If so, that's one of the CDs that I purchased during my music listening "Dark Ages". Although I really don't remember anything, bad or good, about it. I remember you had the option of programing "Blumine" into it's original 2nd movement position.
Robert C. Lang
This is the specific one I have:http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphony-No-1-Gustav/dp/B00005A3J3/ref=sr_1_1/102-1335779-2952927?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1174131478&sr=1-1
LOL. One might think that in regard to performances of Mahler's music you have now entered the new age of darkness. :-)Sorry I couldn't resist. I never got onto the SACD carousel, but I like to peak in once in a while.
nt
'Dark Ages' experienced in Europe, a period of time when cultures, countries, religions, and peasants suffered from the result of political chaos. I believe his reference ws intended to be figurative as mine was nothing more than a kindly intended play on his words to express my feeling that the quality of performance should not be sacrificed for the sake of a recording playback format. Of course that was just my opinion.Of course I can't speak for Mr Lang, who might well explain his reference to you.
While it was certainly not my intention to hold it up as a classic analogy for even a fleeting comment my reference to the "Dark Ages" (early Middle Ages roughly 500 AD to 1000 AD) was a play on words and a gentle fun poke at the CD medium in its early years, say (roughly 1983-1993).The "Dark Ages" in Europe was considered a time of cultural regression and repression. Well for me, personally, the early years of CD (1983-1993, although I actually purchased my first CDs direct from Japan in 1982) was the absolute nadir of my in home music listening experience. I considered it a clear step backward in the quality of music reproduction. And like the European "Dark Ages", I didn't realize how bad things were (musically) initially. Sometime in the early 90's, I found myself mired in bad sound, and I simply gave up on CDs (and my “Class A” CD player) and went back to Lps, which I had never abandoned, except for purchase.
Some here in this forum and elsewhere have argued convincingly, and I have since learned on my own, that CDs as a medium, are now damn good sounding and that I, may have given up on them too soon.
Nevertheless, with the advent of SACD multi-channel, I, for me personally, am now in the absolute zenith of my music listening experience, ever. (I dare not equate it to the Renaissance :)
My “Dark Ages” reference was also an in fun follow up to the post (link below).
Robert C. Lang
nt
Robert C. Lang
is Abravanel with Utah Symphony, a DSD remaster of 1974 Vanguard analog recording. I wish Vanguard re-issued on SACD the whole Abravanel cycle, not just this one. The qualty of Vanguard 70s tapes is superb, no tape hiss that mars end-of-50s RCA masters.It is a double CD coupled with excellent Berlioz Requiem recorded in Mormon Tabernacle (what ambience!). A tenor in Sanctus is like nothing I've ever heard.
I wonder if Telarc will release it on SACD? I passed on the Zander SACD as I wanted Blumine and didn't want a Mahler song cycle.The Levi is an excellent performance!
It's shocking I actually choose a CD over an SACD isn't it? It's because CDs on the Yamaha DVD-S1700 DO NOT sound like CDs but more like SACDs with slightly less resolution which is easily overlooked when I listen to the music. Wonder if CDs on the Yamaha are upsampled to DSD? I can't find anything about how CDs are handled in this player in Internet searches, and there are no professional reviews yet? I am curious though why the Yamaha can make CDs listenable when even a $5,000 CD player cannot? Megabuck CD players have more resolution but still sound like CDs. CDs on the Yamaha DVD-S1700 sound nothing whatsoever like CDs.
"Music is love"
Teresa
...Walter's on even Columbia Odyessey with the Columbia Symphony Orchestra, and Muti's one-off on EMI/Angel digital (!) but amazing warm sound on Lp. (I'm loving my Reel to Reel BTW. I found a gargantuan set of Wagner's Gotterdammerung, Solti London.
but when i got my sony ns500v, i raved over its rbcd sound. i still feel that way although i may just have to try an oppo.
...regards...tr
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