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In Reply to: Re: Anybody else disappointed in Chesky "New York Sessions"? posted by LiquidMidrange on January 31, 2007 at 16:01:57:
And I have all 6 discs (including the John Hicks, Buster Williams, Louis Hayes disc (who's name escapes me) that hasn't been officially released yet - picked it up at CES. It's an excellent example of what three compatable musicians - all of an era - can do when gien the chance to record what they want.All sound very good. And I love Traffic. Coryell, Bailey & White are all in superb form on this mostly fusion set. I agree that is very good too.
But I guess you can't please all audiophiles all the time - or in this case even some of the time. All I know is that they please me, and I want as amny more as the Chesky brother are willing to record.
John Crossett____________________________
It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.
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..his teens during the 50's and twenties in the '60's, I grew up with the modern jazz era, and the stuff on these disks to me is insipid, uninspired, and second-rate jazz compared to work by Miles, Mingus, Gillespie, Mulligan, etc. Or even the farm teams of that era.Moreover, it isn't just comparing the past. It's comparing quality. Just two years ago, I heard Wynton with three other young musicians in a small nightclub in Northampton, MA and even as a new and admittedly experimental group, they put anybody on these disks to shame with their originality, spontenaity, and sheer musicianship. Almost all the compositions were new; few were standards. And yet they delivered quality jazz at the level of those 50's legends.
My conclusion is that Chesky not only botched the recording, they did nothing right to catch a vibe.
Harry
At least with these disks Chesky has finally brought some of today's top jazzmen with new work into the SACD format. John Abercrombie, Eddie Gomez, Nicholas Payton, Hank Jones, Christian McBride.... Had this happened earlier (instead of endless SACD back-catalog reissues and so-called "audiophile" jazz by third-string performers) perhaps the SACD format would have found a sustaining audience of discriminating, affluent buyers interested in new music. Instead the format is a dead letter for all but classical fans. Got to hand it to Chesky, these are probably the only SACD hybrid titles you can actually find at your local record store (if indeed you can find your local record store...)
In no particular order:Ray Brown
Oscar Peterson
Dave Brubeck
Milt Jackson
Jack Dejohnette
Stanley Clark
Al Foster
Jacques Loussier
George Shearing
John Clayton
Kevin Mahogany
Christian McBride
Russell Malone
McCoy Tyner
Freddy Cole
John Pizzarelli
Michel Camillo
Tierney Sutton
Geri Allen
Monty Alexander
Ann Hampton Callaway
Hiromi
Spyro Gyra
Al DiMeola
Philip Bailey
Randy Brecker
Michael Brecker
Jaco Pastorious
Jaco Pastorious Big Band
Turtle Island Quartet
Manhattan Transferamong many others, are all on SACD releases, most recorded in DSD - and all would be surprised to be relegated to third-string performer status.
Best Regards,
To distinguish from back-catalog jazz releases on SACD (that most jazz collectors probably already have on fine-sounding vinyl) I meant that there is a shortage of NEW music except for "so-called "audiophile" jazz by third-string performers." Yes, some of the performers on your list have issued a new album or two on SACD, but others like Jaco would be surprised to hear they had done work of any kind in recent years...Regards,
Dave
I hope that you have his "Griot Liberte" SACD. This is a terrific, recent recording by Rudy Van Gelder. Music and sonics are very good.
But it's now on my short list. Thanks for the heads up.
John Crossett____________________________
It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.
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