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And what makes you think they won't?????
Genesis, to me, was not necessarily known for providing the world with excellent recordings of their work. I was looking for infomation about the 2-channel layer and whether we could look forward to new and improved mixes/sonics. The CD's I have from their work are not the greatest recordings. I have no Genesis vinyl so I cannot judge that. Also I think that Police, Elton John and Peter Gabriel SA-CD's are not doing justice to the format. In my opinion these SA-CD's add nothing sonically that could not have been achieved with RB-CD 'done right'. Why would Genesis be different? I hope I am wrong. Maybe someone can shed some light on this that will show me the error of my ways.
I have one or two Genesis albums on vinyl (and also a few Phil Collins). They sound pretty good. If the new SA-CDs sound anything like them I'll be very happy.*** Also I think that Police, Elton John and Peter Gabriel SA-CD's are not doing justice to the format. ***
Huh? They sound great to me (again, comparison to vinyl, where I have the equivalent).
If your point was that a well mastered CD sounds good, I don't disagree with that. But it doesn't mean that it's not possible to hear additional benefit from SA-CD.
I think you interpreted the meaning of my post correctly. If it takes SA-CD to get better sounding verions of the Genesis oeuvre, great.
They pioneered the "bright, aggressive, and glary" sound. Lots of EQ and deliberate tape over-saturation.The mix sounds "dated" and "processed" to modern ears, but very popular in the 80s and many bands/engineers tried to copy it.
PS - currently listening to "Invisible Touch" on LP - forgotten how bright the mix was - would probably sound good on a Walkman I think!
..is what I hear when I listen to my "Definitive Edition Remaster" (a laughable moniker) version of 'A Trick Of The Tail'. Don't get me wrong, I really like Genesis. Great music, good memories. Maybe'll pick up some vinyl to compare. And you are right that the mix sounds dated and processed. If that is how it was intended so be it. I bet that the vinyl sounds better than the CD. We'll have to wait for the SA-CD to find out what they have done with their master tapes this time. A better version of glary and bright, or a complety new effort where acoustic guitar sounds actually like one instead of a National guitar played inside an oil drum :-)
With Genesis the sonic quality are generally inversely proportional to the material. Old Genesis - good/sometimes great (Dance on a Volcano) music, bad sonics. Later OK music much better sonics. Phil Collins, Face Value is good on both accounts and the only solo I have.
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Even though I've drifted away from multichannel listening and don't have a very good multichannel setup, I'm looking forward to hearing some of these albums in multichannel, especially The Lamb. I've also heard there will be new stereo mixes. Based on hearing the Platinum Collection CD, which has some new remixes, I expect at least some of the stereo mixes on the SACDs to be better than what's currently available.
...see link below. No problem. This just means you have to buy them from Europe. Amazon.fr usually has good prices. It's a similar story as with the Police where Europe got the hydbrids and the US the single layer I believe. Look at the 'Nick Davis' post somewhere in the middle.It would be great if the stereo layer would improve the sound of these discs, but I am skeptical and probably wait for te first reports before I buy them.
Jw
lossless 96/24 dts?
Yeah,USA folks has to pay out the butt for Import SACD's ,just like the Moody's releases.Double cd's with lots of extra/filler? tracks and $40 list. Wish they would release in USA with Tracks as in orginal release,maybe a few extra tracks at the $15 price point.Since the 60's we have had to buy imports to get best quality/selection records,No need to change now.The Majors here gear their music and releases to the mainstream vanilla music loving public.JD
It would seem they have been pushing Warner for a long time on this. The Lamb has been ready to go for over two years, for example. I'm happy ordering from Europe and would have preferred to see them go ahead with the original schedule and no US release. I'm sure a lot of other fans in the US feel the same way. Maybe if they had shown Warner the potential demand and how much business they're losing, the situation would be different.On a related note, I don't really understand why the record labels get caught up in format wars. It would seem to me that they would benefit most from being format agnostic and release content into whatever formats & markets they see potential sales. The idea that Warner would leave money on the table out of loyalty for a dead format seems perverse.
to hate the reactionary and oppressive US Record industry: non participation with their British and European sister labels. Slow to release, and not including all of the elements of the product......May their death come quick.....
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