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In Reply to: I think you are right... posted by SE on November 10, 2006 at 07:58:36:
NO HI-REZ FORMAT HAS EVER BEEN PROFITABLE...C'mon now, you really don't think that Sony, Philips etc. etc, has EVER made a profit from Hi-Rez....???
Don't be silly.. why do you think that they're all running away from it??
Sheesh, - it's been a losing proposition from the get go. Hi-Rez is Sony's tax write off....
Sony has lost more money on SACD that it's a joke around the company....What do you mean audiophile crowd? A few of us here do not constitute a crowd. Go out on the street and take a poll: 99.9% of people that you encounter will have NO CLUE what SACD is. As Nefertiti said, - people are perfectly happy with the low quality of their low res downloadable IPOD files. Finally, you're going to get far more pictures, better liner notes, maybe even have a nice AIM or Email with the artist and do your browsing online; so much more than a crappy little bit of CD artwork... And, is the artwork on the CD any good anyway? Haven't you noticed a precipitous decline in "cool" CD covers? Why? Why spend money on cool cover art when you need it for marketing the crappy music that no one is buying? Seriously, - it's been a long time gone from the days of old and cool 12" by 12" album cover art. This is especially the case with classical and jazz. Diana Krall is wearing longer and longer pants....
Thoughts from above hit the people down below. There are people in this world who have no place to go
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Sordid is correct. The masses are perfectly happy with mp3 @ 128 or even lower. Very few people sit still long enough these days to actually critically listen to anything. The majority of listening is either done via headphones, while doing whatever, or done in the car. I got into 2CH in 1969 and have always subscribed to the audio mags and spent inordinate amounts of money (albeit a very relative term) on systems. That being said, when I invested in high quality front projection video, my listening habits changed noticeably. Whereas nearly every Friday nite previously was spent sitting in the sweet spot and sipping wine with my wife, we began to spend those times in front of the screen. Video, I believe, started eroding 2CH, even high end 2CH and of course downloading has pretty much delivered the near fatal blow. It's true that we 2CH/multi-CH audiophiles represent but a wee island in the sea of music marketing. All the big companies will blow in whatever direction the marketing winds are blowing and right now they are blowing in our faces. It pains me to say it but it sure seems like the masses have spoken and things are about to change. CD/SACD have become the republican party of music sales. Cue the death knell.
Oh great. Now I have to stare at a computer screen in order to play music and read liner notes. No thanks.
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I think the only way the download format will conquer is when the quality of the downloads is improved to the point that they at leas equal redbook standards. Also, consistant digital booklets are needed to satisfy at least classical and jazz listeners who want to know who did what. When and if that occurs, then the disc format may well be in serious threat of extinction
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Thoughts from above hit the people down below. There are people in this world who have no place to go
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Thoughts from above hit the people down below. There are people in this world who have no place to go
I was pretty sure your "facts" were just your unsubstantiated opinion.Posting an actual fact is quite different from posting your opinion and expecting everyone to take it as self-evident.
From Sony Corp financials and the RIAA....http://www.riaa.com/news/newsletter/pdf/2005yrEndStats.pdf
Sony DVD player, and Universal player, hardware sales, - from 2004 to 2005 also report a 20% to 43% reduction....
Thoughts from above hit the people down below. There are people in this world who have no place to go
http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=hirez&n=216444Sony doesn't sell universal players.
DVD player sales are on the decline because the market is saturated. The players that are selling are the ones that offer uprated features (like SACD/DVD-A compatibility).
"The Hi Rez formats weren't profitable enough for the big companies". What the heck are we disagreeing about on that front?
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Thoughts from above hit the people down below. There are people in this world who have no place to go
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