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In Reply to: Re: good point posted by Bruce from DC on November 10, 2006 at 07:38:00:
right?I mean, you've taken great care of your records. Well, as they say, s%&t happens. You could drop a box during a move, the cat could pee on them, some silly sod could spill his rum & coke on them....
The likelihood that you could get them back diminishes every day. The liklihood that you could get them back for a reasonable price diminishes every day. The liklihood that they're re-issued on CD or SACD or whatever diminishes evey day. But, - the liklihood that you could download them from someone JUST LIKE YOU, INCREASES every day.
Also, nowadays, people are finally starting to build more value into their players. The new Meitner, my APL, Audio Aero, Ayre, and a host of other fine players are coming out that sound great and do a better job of, - if you want that sound, - competing with vinyl. I'm still waiting to hear a vinyl rig that competes with my APL, and I'm not sure that I'll hear one that competes with the SOTA APL player...
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I thought the argument was about the death of physical media. I'm not going to get into the "CD vs. vinyl, which sounds better?" debate. That's irrelevant. CD, as a physical medium, is less fragile than a vinyl record and, for that reason alone, has triumphed in the marketplace against vinyl. RBCD can certainly sound very good.The big question is whether, 40 years from now, there will be easy access to a player that can play that CD.
But the likelihood that there's a "download" that provides the resolution of a CD, SACD or vinyl record is pretty much incalculable. Because there's no such thing today.
MP3 and similar lossy compression schemes are fine for the typical pop song, at least as long as pop music is stuck where it's been for the last 35 years or so, as something that is played on electric guitars and a drum kit. You lose something, but you don't miss it.
And, as the other guy said, a hard drive is also a physical medium; it's just more compact . . . and more fragile.
Resolution of a CD at least is EASILY available to download. Here is one interesting and apparently legal site that provides digitized LPs for free download and you can see they are using pretty darn good equipment to digitize. Format is lossless flac, which decompresses back to the original CD. Now obviously this music is not for everyone.But while the lossless formats are far less frequently used than the mp3 format, there are still a ton of them out there. Particularly for classical music, many of the peer-to-peer sharers care about quality and they provide ape or flac.
And if you like the whole jam band thing (I don't), you can spend your whole life listening to concerts that are always CD resolution or higher, the jam band concert websites don't go for mp3 quality either.
" MP3 and similar lossy compression schemes are fine for the typical pop song, at least as long as pop music is stuck where it's been for the last 35 years or so, as something that is played on electric guitars and a drum kit. You lose something, but you don't miss it. "What's at issue is not what audiophiles think, but what sells, - the two are largely separate. MP3 is fine, but hi-rez formats are too expensive, and not worth it, as far as the public at large is concerned. The point is that with MP3, - one doesn't have to waste a lot of money on a whole record, - when most people, - only want one or two songs.
A backed up hard drive with 1,000 CDs worth of music is less fragile than 1,000 12" records, and can be played over and over again without the pops and clicks, that one ALWAYS has to listen past, no matter how clean it's kept...
Thoughts from above hit the people down below. There are people in this world who have no place to go
For me, over time, this has gone round and round. Like many, I sold off my vinyl ( and some cassettes) and went to CD in the 80's. After about 10 years, I started looking for vinyl again. I have carried both formats for the years since as well as R2R tape. I am happy with SACD for the most paprt but the price and availability are issues. I lost a trucklaod of music when my hard drive and computer went out within a few weeks of each other. I am done with that format... What to do??
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