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In Reply to: More Observations after a Second Listening posted by Chris from Lafayette on November 1, 2006 at 18:11:51:

Hi Chris--To answer your question from your previous post, I'm only set up for 2-channel listening. Good to hear that the sound improves in MCH mode, but it's unlikely that I'll get to experience that myself at home. ;-(
As Kal mentioned, the Dorati/Detroit recording on Decca RBCD is pretty sensational, and it renders that bass tuba pretty powerfully as well. (The only one I've heard to do so, but I've yet to hear the new Salonen.) I was also at that Abbado/LSO concert at Davies, and I think (if memory serves me correctly) I also heard Ozawa do the 'Mandarin' with the SFS at Zellerbach in Berkeley many years ago--I also don't recall the bass tuba jumping out like it does on the Dorati (and Salonen) recordings, so perhaps it is exaggerated a bit there. Incidentally, if you don't have the Martinon/Chicago recording of the 'Mandarin' (available in the RCA 'High Performance' series on RBCD), you're missing perhaps the greatest performance ever of this work!
Russell

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Re: More Observations after a Second Listening - Chris from Lafayette 00:23:19 11/02/06 (4)
Russell - Thanks for the recommendation - I'll put the Martinon/CSO performance on my shopping list too (along with the Dorati/Detroit). Posting on this forum can get to be expensive! :-)
- Re: More Observations after a Second Listening - Russell 11:25:48 11/02/06 (3)
  Hi Chris--I'm not sure about the availability of the Martinon, but I know the Dorati/Detroit has been discontinued for many years now. I do see it pop up at used record stores (like Amoeba) a lot, though. Happy hunting!
  Russell
  - Dorati's Mandarin - Doktor Brahms 16:46:48 11/02/06 (2)
    I am aware of two stereo recordings of Bartok's Mandarin conducted by Antal Dorati. In an earlier posting, Chris referred to a Mercury recording by Dorati and the LSO. The Mercury (with Dorati conducting the BBC SO, not the LSO) was once available on a single CD (deleted), but can now be obtained in a multi-disc Mercury set. Dorati/Detroit is a digital recording, but it's actually one of the more listenable early Decca digitals. Dorati includes the optional organ part, and its contribution to the sonic fabric is not subtle! This CD has also been deleted, but the recording itself is still currently avaiable in one of those "Double Decca" repackagings of Bartok orchestral works (see link). Used copies of the deleted discs mentioned above tend to be readily available through Amazon. (For example, the Dorati/Detroit Mandarin is currently on offer for 99 cents.)
    Either recording would be a valuable addition to one's music library. Happy listening!
    - ArkivMusic: Dorati/Bartok/Mandarin (Open in New Window)
    - Oops - you're right - it was Dorati/BBC, not Dorati/LSO. . . - Chris from Lafayette 00:22:03 11/03/06 (0)
      Also, you're correct about the organ part - that's what I'm sure I was hearing now - along with the bass tuba. Sorry for the confusion! And thanks for the info about the availability of the Dorati/Detroit!
    - Re: Dorati's Mandarins - Kal Rubinson 20:10:10 11/02/06 (0)
      Both are excellent but if you want to hear that bass brass, it's the Detroit recording/performance.
      Kal

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