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• Re: Do a search on DVD-Audiobaun, there are several there that record vinyl to 24 Bit 96kHz - KMyron 14:14:55 10/27/06 (5)
  In Reply to: Do a search on DVD-Audiobaun, there are several there that record vinyl to 24 Bit 96kHz posted by Teresa on October 24, 2006 at 23:51:57:

  Hi Teresa, I've always considered you as a person with very good ears and one who is well versed in vinyl (remembering your vinyl phase). Have you heard any of the 24/96 direct from vinyl recordings? It would seem that you, more than anyone else on either of these forums would be considered the most respected source of critique on this concept.

  If you haven't heard any of these recordings yet I hope you do get a chance to. I'd love to hear what you think.
  
  

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  • Re: Do a search on DVD-Audiobaun, there are several there that record vinyl to 24 Bit 96kHz - Teresa 02:57:51 10/28/06 (2)
    In Reply to: Re: Do a search on DVD-Audiobaun, there are several there that record vinyl to 24 Bit 96kHz posted by KMyron on October 27, 2006 at 14:14:55:

    I am sorry I haven't experimented with recording Vinyl to 24/96 PCM yet but "tubesforever" who also lives in Reno has done it and says it makes an almost perfect copy of an LP. Next time I go over I will check it out.

    I have recorded Vinyl to DAT (16 Bit 48kHz) not much more resolution than CD but my recordings didn't have the dreaded shrill upper-midrange that makes me run screaming from the room in pain. I don't know if it's a difference in the extra 5,900 samples per second or format with physical contact sound better than laser read ones.

    LPs I recorded to DAT lost a little bit of ambiance, and the high frequencies lost some impact and that shimmering airiness they have live, but from the midrange down the DAT made to my ears a near perfect copy something I have never heard a CD-R do so I am sure 24/96 has to be even better and may actually sound identical to the LP. I'll let you know after I check it out.

    Oh I did try some pre-recorded DAT's from Sheffield Lab and Direct to Tape Recording Co. when I still had the player, must be over a decade ago. They were much better than the CD versions but LP easily surpassed them. As you know the format never took off as a consumer format and I think there was only about 10 pre-recorded tapes ever released.
    
    "Music is love"
    Teresa
    
    

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    • Re: Do a search on DVD-Audiobaun, there are several there that record vinyl to 24 Bit 96kHz - Ozzie 10:29:11 10/28/06 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: Do a search on DVD-Audiobaun, there are several there that record vinyl to 24 Bit 96kHz posted by Teresa on October 28, 2006 at 02:57:51:

      "I have recorded Vinyl to DAT (16 Bit 48kHz) not much more resolution than CD but my recordings didn't have the dreaded shrill upper-midrange that makes me run screaming from the room in pain. I don't know if it's a difference in the extra 5,900 samples per second or format with physical contact sound better than laser read ones."

      Some feel that the threshold of transparency may be lower than us audio geeks think. Say somwhere in the 50kHz area. If you haven't already, do check out an SACD of on of the early DMP recordeings. Recorded at 55.1 kHz on an early digital machine (Soundstream?), they sound pretty darn good. The Leonhart has some very nice piano sound and is a cute disc. Jay is no slouch on the bass either.
      
      

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    • DAT !! - The Sound Guy 09:22:24 10/28/06 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: Do a search on DVD-Audiobaun, there are several there that record vinyl to 24 Bit 96kHz posted by Teresa on October 28, 2006 at 02:57:51:

      Wow, you seem to have tried every pre-recorded audio format.
      It is interesting to note that DAT @ 48/16 did not cause you irritation. Could it be low rez PCM coupled with static electricity generated by a plastic disc rotated at high speed and noise from the servo mechanism and noise from the laser gives you pain?
      Have you tried a MP3 player with no moving parts (ie, flash memory based, no HDD). I suspect your pain problem may disappear!
      
      

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  • I'm not Teresa, but - Ted Smith 15:01:23 10/27/06 (1)
    In Reply to: Re: Do a search on DVD-Audiobaun, there are several there that record vinyl to 24 Bit 96kHz posted by KMyron on October 27, 2006 at 14:14:55:

    Howdy

    At MikeL's place Alex Peychev recorded from Mike's Rockport TT to Redbook and it sounded wonderful! ( http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/hirez/messages/227489.html )

    I can't imagine how much better it would sound with a higher resolution recorder, but part of the magic was clearly the careful mods Alex had done to his recorder.

    -Ted

    
    
    

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    • Tedster, you may have hit the nail... - Ozzie 10:41:32 10/28/06 (0)
      In Reply to: I'm not Teresa, but posted by Ted Smith on October 27, 2006 at 15:01:23:

      up on top of the head. In my not so humble opinion, most people who prefer vinyl have thoroughly tweaked their systems for years in order to get their prized LPs to sound the way they want. And for good reason. If they had put as much of an effort into their digital front ends, the gap just might disappear. But then again their systems might end up not sounding so well on vinyl. Perhaps the Ying Yang thing taking place? Unike Teresa, I find CD on my slightly tweaked system can sound pretty darn good. It may not be the be all, end all in resolution, but I can get a high level of enjoyment without being driven out of the room from high frequency digititis. When I put a well recorded SACD, it shouts to LP, bring it on.
      
      

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