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In Reply to: Good point... posted by andy_c on December 3, 2004 at 16:33:35:
Andy,I can't find the reference in the (incredibly complicated) handbook but I think I read somewhere that the bass management and speaker distance settings are both in DSD mode, presumably using the Sony chipsets. I could easily be wrong! However, the sound is very fine in MCH: for example the new MTT/SFS Mahler 2 is an absolute knockout.
It is worth mentioning that I decided against the Onkyo because of the lack of speaker setting.
Dave
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I can't find the reference in the (incredibly complicated) handbook but I think I read somewhere that the bass management and speaker distance settings are both in DSD mode, presumably using the Sony chipsets.Funny you should mention that. I remember reading the exact same thing somewhere too, but I can't remember where. It might have been in these forums. I downloaded the user's manual before posting my previous message and couldn't find anything one way or the other. I ended up just assuming that it converted DSD to PCM. This bugged me, so I went and looked again at the Denon site. I've pasted the link below. In that description, it says the following:
Full Digital Bass Management for DVD-Audio/SACD (optional), featuring dual Analog Devices Melody 100 'HammerHead' processors (DSD signals are converted to PCM)
Even so, the bass management features are much better for the Denon than the Onkyo for both SACD and DVD-A. Of course for the speaker distance setting with SACD there's no contest, as this setting does nothing on the Onkyo with SACD.
I only wish I had room in my apartment for a MCH setup! I'm two-channel only at the moment.
Thanks for the URL: I note it also says: "permits Channel Level and Delay Time adjustments (No conversion of DSD signals to PCM)". I think I am right in saying that BM cannot be switched off, just the crossover frequency changed. This sounds like a case of being both converted and not-converted to PCM!! Ah well! Happy New Year anyway.Dave :-)
I'm pretty sure bass management will be implicitly turned off when all speakers are set to "large". In this way, the subwoofer will only get the ".1" signal from MCH recordings, as opposed to the sum of the ".1" signal and the redirected low bass information that would have gone to the left and right front and/or rear speakers had either been set to "small".So it appears that if all speakers are set to "large", the Denon will not convert DSD to PCM even if the speaker delay function is enabled. Another big plus for the Denon. They really did a nice job on the bass management and speaker delay functions.
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