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I'm really struggling with this one.Has anyone compared the SACD with the 20 Bit remaster?
I've heard really good things about the CCR remasters and really good things about some of the SACDs, but at $20+ a pop, I wonder if the difference is "all that."
Are the cymbals just not life-like on the 20 Bit, the bass muddy, etc?
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I have all the CCR SACD's except their last, Mardi Gras, and I can assue you that they sound great. Mind you I have a pretty high end rig but listening to the SACD versions compared to the redbook is like pulling a blanket off my speakers as far as clarity is concerned. I know they are a lot of money but for me they were worth the price.
that a standard redbook could not capture. It is a chrome cassette quality master.
Ok I might have gone along about the Sony problems, but spreading untruths just isn't right.Knowing that Steve Hoffman and Kevin Grey's feelings on how a remaster should sound, I can say with confidence that this is from the masters and not some chrome cassette.....
Shame on you.
And don't accuse me of lying. The problem here is you cannot read.
Yikes! Couldn't let this one pass by. . .Perhaps the remastering for redbook and/or SACD are "chrome cassette quality" masters, but a brief listen to the vinyl reissue of the CCR albums from Analogue Productions will assure just about anyone that the master session tapes are most decidedly not cassette quality. The 33 1/3 LPs are great, the latest 12 45rpm issues are about the closet thing to having CCR in the listening room.
IMNSHO,
Explain to doofus above that I did not anywhere say the master was actually a chrome cassette, would you? TIA..
Wow, Steve. If the vinyl is that good, I'll have to check it out. I was very unhappy with the SACD's. Thanks.
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Hi Jack,At the risk of being waaay out of forum, I've got to say the work Kevin Gray and Steve Hoffman did on the CCR vinyl is superb. When Chad first brought out the 33 1/3 CCR LPs I picked up a couple to compare to two of the original Fantasy deep-grove blue & gold label LPs I've had for years. The originals were pretty decent, actually, very good as rock LPs of that era -- the reissues were significantly better in all aspects.
Then, I had a chance to hear some test-pressings that Chad had had done at 45 rpm on 12 inch vinyl. I was astonished. Granted, I heard them on a world-class system, but the presence and immediacy of the 45 rpm tracks provided some of the best vinyl playback I'd ever experienced. For the next year-and-a-half I waited impatiently (and periodically bugged Chad by e-mail) for Acoustic Sounds to get it in gear and release the CCR stuff in 45 rpm.
Finally, this year the 12" 45 rpm box set of CCR "Best Of's" came out (I think I've got set #0067 out of the limited run) as well as single 12" 45 EPs with 2 to 4 tracks selected from each CCR album. At $20 per, they are a nice way to see if you like them before popping for the complete box set.
I don't know that I'd ever call my home system "world class" but it isn't too shabby, and over my Edgarhorns, CCR simply ROCKS via 45 rpm.
I guess all of this is by way of agreeing with the posters on this thread that knowing Steve Hoffman and Kevin Gray's high standards and proven quality of work, I'd have a hard time believing the SACDs are chrome cassette quality. Then again, if one's standard of reference is a $150 POS SACD deck, I guess anything is possible. . .
Thanks for the bandwidth (and no, I have no affiliation with Chad, Steve, Kevin, CCR, Fantasy Records, the Secret Audiophile Society, the CIA or the Republican National Committee. . .)
Thank you very much for your time, Steve. Very much appreciated.
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