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In Reply to: Something is very wrong in audioland: yesterday, posted by tinear on May 6, 2007 at 06:17:40:
I know exactly what you are talking about. A guy at work was talking to me about "audio" and raving about his ultra super great fantastic music system. Turns out that it isn't even a surround home theater system but his PC sound card hooked to a processor of some kind.I suggested that he come over some weekend and we'd sit around and listen to my stereo. He said something to the effect of "naw, them old tube stereos are no good. They just buzz and hum". When I suggested that he listen to a good tube amp that didn't do that he opined that his audio has to be better cause it has SIX speakers.
Somehow, in his mind, more speakers equals "better" sound. He excitedly repeated several times that his has SIX speakers. You gotta hear it he urged. I politelly declined. I could have made more progress talking to a brick wall. There is none so blind as he who will not see.
roN
Follow Ups:
Don't dismiss a system because it is PC based!There are some sound cards that easily best "audiophile" gear.
Case in point, my PC systems sounds way better than my old transport dac system. Even off the pc, the soundcard sound better than the external DAC which is about $300 more expensive than the sound card. ($900-1200)
Also, the soundcard has 3 pairs of balanced outs and I can use the PC as a digital crossover and do room correction as well as upsampling.
That said, I agree that your coworker's rig probably isn't audiophile.
IMHO the industry has done a horrible job of educating, and just seems to dismiss anyone not buying into their mantra as stupid. Kind of like you are doing with your coworker :)
no, I do not think that he is stupid, just uninformed. You're too presumptous concluding that I think he is stupid. I know this guy. I've worked with him for years so I know he's not a DA. He just has never listened to any good stereo equipment. I didn't intend to imply that I thought he's stupid. After all, we're not talking about Bose stuff here ;-)Hooking multiple speakers to lo-fi doesn't make it sound hi-fi. All it does is add more outlets to the lo-fi output.
yeah, I know that PC audio isn't the transistor radio sounding junk it used to be, BUT, you can add all the computer speakers you want to any PC and they won't deliver the bass slam of good speakers.
and for the other post(er), no, I had/have no interest in driving to VA Beach to listen to his PC speakers (all six of them). Not trying to be a smarta** but the quality of my tube gear has surpassed anything I've heard demo-ed in the outlets retailing the PC stuff he has. I've already listen to those systems in several places. Admittedly they sounded better than I thought they would.
Now, if he wanted to show me his new Manley amps..........
cheers,
roN
So many spots in tv and mags could have easy placement of stereos and ads,but nobody does it.How hard is to slap together a little stereo,even a $1000. system,really anything just to get exposure and for somebody to see it,hell you dont even see stereos in Rolling Stone,what am i missing here,last time i checked i thought Rolling Stone had something to do with music.And people get upset because Bose makes sales
Ten years ago, a perfectly normal looking blond hair dude at a high-tech company, showed me his ultimate highfi setup. It was his car with an array of bazooka subs all over it. I'm sure the guy is almost deaf with tinnitis by now. Whatever floats their boat.The only guy I ever converted was someone with an extensive CD collection (this is getting rare now) who remembers the record trading and even the open-reel trading days. He didn't know the highend existed until he met me. As it goes, the equipment investment was modest compared to his software collection.
Y'all might think it's dying, but there's still some of us young folk that really, really enjoy some good tunes, and good sound.I started with a junk stereo, moved into a pricey HT setup, then sold it all off for some tube gear and (gasp!) two speakers...
I try to get as many of my friends (and as many musicians as I can stand!) to bring over a handful of their favorite cd's, or in the musicians' cases, their own music. I provide the PBR, and usually the afternoons or evenings conclude with all of them asking me to help them pick out a cheap system!
I KNOW none of my friends would ever think to try and buy gear from some dude that belittles their music... how many times have you ever heard some Dimu Borgir blasting at a high end shop??? The HORROR!!! Sorry, mate, but that's what some people listen to! who gives a rats ass whether its audiophallic!! and I'm more than happy to let any of my friends listen to ANY music on my humble rig, to try and get them bit by the bug.
Sounds like neither of you wanted to give the other's stereo system a try.... ;-)
That's what I was thinking. Maybe his SIX speakers sound incredible. ;-)
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