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In Reply to: Re: You said you rarely visit any dealer because of snobbishnes NOT just one or a few due to a bad experience! posted by Don T on April 26, 2007 at 16:05:22:
Donkey still can't answer my basic question. Where does it say ALL in my original post?
Follow Ups:
You said rarely do you go into audio shops because of snobbishness.The fact you admit one dealership you rarely visit isn't a snob has nothing to do with the point I'm trying to make.
My point is about you rarely going into hifi shops and how IMO that's a resource audiophiles should take advantage of as much as possible.
I never said, or never meant to say, you said ALL dealers were snobs - if I did please point it out - my apologies in advance. However you did say you rarely go into audioshops because of snobbishness.
Heck if you've got access to a good hifi shop that doesn't effect your snob sensibilities why do you rarely go into it?
Please don't call me out to answer a question - you've avoided answering mine - and I'm about ready to gather them all up and put them in a post to show how disingenuous your name-calling non-responsive attacks have actually been.
Making up your own words again, Donkey? Please tell me where in my OP post did I use the word RARELY. Really, how do you go through life confabulating and forgetting.Please go ahead and post how disingenuous I have been. I would love to be amused to see the lengths you would go and the time you would take out of your life to do so. Please I beg you Donkey.
Nothing disingenuous about my position.You rarely go into hifi shops because of snobbishness.
That's what you've told us in this thread.
You're only been into hifi 2 or 3 times in the last 2 years and you admitted you usually don't go anymore.
Are you now denying you've said any such things!!!!!!!!!
Give me rhythm or give me death!
Thank you for pointing out that I never said RARELY. I don't consider having visited dealers 3 times in 2 years rare at all. It's all relative. Compared to you who hangs out at local dealers like a junky, I guess that's rare. But people with lives and friends who don't need a dealer to define their existence, it's not rare at all. Compared to your regular Joe who's been to a hi end dealer once in his life, 3 times in 2 years is overkill. It's sad you spend so much of your life at dealers. I have other avenues to listen to new equipment as I have already stated. Like I said, go to a ball game. There are other things in life that are as much or more enjoyable than audio.
ROTFLOL! I could make an arguement how an audiophile could be successful without visiting local dealers.
You clearly have shown you can not do it.Well I already apologized but I'm ALMOST sorry I did! All dealers and salespeople can be snobs - be it internet, b&m, audio, appliance, auto, etc.
The point I'm making and still stand by is that you've single out B&M audio dealers being worse.
And I submit that most audiophiles would do this because justifies their desire to be CHEAPER and to buy audio mail order than through B&M outlets.
I also said MOST and I've given you numerous oppurtunities to describe how a caring audiophile could avoid local dealers and still get listening experiences required to make informed and educated purchase.
You've fail miserably to put yourself ahead of the masses.
That being said you've failed to tell us how you get your hands on / ears on listening experiences AND you failed to tell us about this small company manufactured equipment not sold by US dealers that you have to buy mail order!
Oh yea you claim you have audiophile friends. Sure thing - I've got audiophile friends too. But you know what their systems are so different than mine I find the components they own only minimally interesting.
I'm sure all of your friends have systems similar to yours and they let you take their gear home so you can find synergistic matches with your system. Unless you're in some kind of dealer or manufactured club you just aren't going to find many if any audiophiles close by with similar systems.
Truth of the matter is I know a few guys around the country who I discuss my system with and I trust their opinion to a degree. And though I've met at least a couple of audiophiles with gear like mine locally I didn't care for them personally.
But I'm sure you're such a man about town the you know a bunch of people in your town with the kind of rare small manufacturer equipment that has to be mail ordered because their are no dealers. You're so full of it you reek!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
You've proven yourself an attention seeking loser AND an outright liar. I'm sure your friends won't even notice.
Give me rhythm or give me death!
Blah, blah, blah....
Give me rhythm or give me death!
nt
I've said you said rarely all along.
Give me rhythm or give me death!
"We've all had experience with snobby dealers both b&m and internet sales - audio and otherwise.The only reason one would single out ALL b&m dealers like you did is to justify saving money by buying mail order."
Don't you remember Donkey?
ROTFLOL! I could make an arguement how an audiophile could be successful without visiting local dealers.You clearly have shown you can not do it.
Well I already apologized but I'm ALMOST sorry I did! All dealers and salespeople can be snobs - be it internet, b&m, audio, appliance, auto, etc.
The point I'm making and still stand by is that you've single out B&M audio dealers being worse.
And I submit that most audiophiles would do this because justifies their desire to be CHEAPER and to buy audio mail order than through B&M outlets.
I also said MOST and I've given you numerous oppurtunities to describe how a caring audiophile could avoid local dealers and still get listening experiences required to make informed and educated purchase.
You've fail miserably to put yourself ahead of the masses.
That being said you've failed to tell us how you get your hands on / ears on listening experiences AND you failed to tell us about this small company manufactured equipment not sold by US dealers that you have to buy mail order!
Oh yea you claim you have audiophile friends. Sure thing - I've got audiophile friends too. But you know what their systems are so different than mine I rarely find the components they own only minimally interesting.
I'm sure all of your friends have systems similar to yours and they let you take their gear home so you can find synergistic matches with your system. Unless you're in some kind of dealer or manufactured club you just aren't going to find many if any audiophiles close by with similar systems that you can get along with.
Truth of the matter is I know a few guys around the country who I discuss my system with and I trust their opinion to a degree. And though I've met at least a couple of audiophiles with gear like mine locally I didn't care for them personally.
But I'm sure you're such a man about town the you know a bunch of people in your town with the kind of rare small manufacturer equipment that has to be mail ordered because their are no dealers. You're so full of it you reek!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
You've proven yourself an attention seeking loser. I'm sure your friends won't even notice.
Go back and read your posts again, Donkey. You stated multiple times that I said ALL the dealers were snobs. Do I have to make this really simple for you and put them in quotes again? Memory failing you again?
Give me rhythm or give me death!
"We've all had experience with snobby dealers both b&m and internet sales - audio and otherwise.The only reason one would single out ALL b&m dealers like you did is to justify saving money by buying mail order."
ROTFLOL! I could make an arguement how an audiophile could be successful without visiting local dealers.You clearly have shown you can not do it.
Well I already apologized but I'm ALMOST sorry I did! All dealers and salespeople can be snobs - be it internet, b&m, audio, appliance, auto, etc.
The point I'm making and still stand by is that you've single out B&M audio dealers being worse.
And I submit that most audiophiles would do this because justifies their desire to be CHEAPER and to buy audio mail order than through B&M outlets.
I also said MOST and I've given you numerous oppurtunities to describe how a caring audiophile could avoid local dealers and still get listening experiences required to make informed and educated purchase.
You've fail miserably to put yourself ahead of the masses.
That being said you've failed to tell us how you get your hands on / ears on listening experiences AND you failed to tell us about this small company manufactured equipment not sold by US dealers that you have to buy mail order!
Oh yea you claim you have audiophile friends. Sure thing - I've got audiophile friends too. But you know what their systems are so different than mine I find the components they own only minimally interesting.
I'm sure all of your friends have systems similar to yours and they let you take their gear home so you can find synergistic matches with your system. Unless you're in some kind of dealer or manufactured club you just aren't going to find many if any audiophiles close by with similar systems.
Truth of the matter is I know a few guys around the country who I discuss my system with and I trust their opinion to a degree. And though I've met at least a couple of audiophiles with gear like mine locally I didn't care for them personally.
But I'm sure you're such a man about town the you know a bunch of people in your town with the kind of rare small manufacturer equipment that has to be mail ordered because their are no dealers. You're so full of it you reek!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
You've proven yourself an attention seeking loser AND an outright liar. I'm sure your friends won't even notice.
Please, please, please, please go ahead!!!! I'm gonna go listen to my music while you pound on your keyboard waisting your life away.
In case you are confused Donkey, the above is my response to your "threat" to post how disingenuous I have been.
ROTFLOL! I could make an arguement how an audiophile could be successful without visiting local dealers.
You clearly have shown you can not do it.Well I already apologized but I'm ALMOST sorry I did! All dealers and salespeople can be snobs - be it internet, b&m, audio, appliance, auto, etc.
The point I'm making and still stand by is that you've single out B&M audio dealers being worse.
And I submit that most audiophiles would do this because justifies their desire to be CHEAPER and to buy audio mail order than through B&M outlets.
I also said MOST and I've given you numerous oppurtunities to describe how a caring audiophile could avoid local dealers and still get listening experiences required to make informed and educated purchase.
You've fail miserably to put yourself ahead of the masses.
That being said you've failed to tell us how you get your hands on / ears on listening experiences AND you failed to tell us about this small company manufactured equipment not sold by US dealers that you have to buy mail order!
Oh yea you claim you have audiophile friends. Sure thing - I've got audiophile friends too. But you know what their systems are so different than mine I find the components they own only minimally interesting.
I'm sure all of your friends have systems similar to yours and they let you take their gear home so you can find synergistic matches with your system. Unless you're in some kind of dealer or manufactured club you just aren't going to find many if any audiophiles close by with similar systems.
Truth of the matter is I know a few guys around the country who I discuss my system with and I trust their opinion to a degree. And though I've met at least a couple of audiophiles with gear like mine locally I didn't care for them personally.
But I'm sure you're such a man about town the you know a bunch of people in your town with the kind of rare small manufacturer equipment that has to be mail ordered because their are no dealers. You're so full of it you reek!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
You've proven yourself an attention seeking loser AND an outright liar. I'm sure your friends won't even notice.
nt
Give me rhythm or give me death!
Keep it simple dummy, if you want to make a point. You're gonna git lost in your own dribble.
Give me rhythm or give me death!
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