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In Reply to: Yea whatever! posted by Don T on April 24, 2007 at 10:09:52:
Don, are you a dealer? I have bought more equipment through legimate brick and mortar dealer than through any other means. But the best service I have ever gotten was through an independent legitimate mail order guy who builds his own equipment. I have over 22 years of experience in hi fi, and I know more than most of these dealer salemen on how to put together a synergistic system because I'm not limited by what the dealer only has to offer. I have also bought from gray market, but would not recommend it because it something goes wrong, your screwed. I rather spend a little more for good support than save a little money risking poor support. So before you go on judging me and others, get the facts first.
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"Don, are you a dealer? "
No.I rather spend a little more for good support than save a little money risking poor support. So before you go on judging me and others, get the facts first.
Oh please you're the one claiming you rarely visit dealers because of their snobbish attitudes. Which mean either you rarely buy audio equipment OR you rarely buy audio from dealers you visit.
I took, and still take after another read, your post as an attack on current audio dealers in general.
I've been buying audio equipment for nearly 30 years and admit I'd be pissing in the wind if not for the time I spend in the brick and mortar shops. I gotta wonder if you are really as good as you say you are or are you pissing into the wind and just don't realize it?
.......Yes it does........Does too........Yes it does.........No it doesn't, your's does! Does Too.
And again what's your point? Your system kicks my systems ASS? What the heck does that mean?
Maggie 3.6, Apogee Stage, Apogee Centaur Majors, Mirage M1s, Thiels, Hyperion 938s, etc. Plus countless electronics. All my speakers were bought new at authorized brick and morter dealers. Half of my electronics were bought online. This past two years, I visited three dealers - not that much by audiophile standards. But I do my homework before I audition speakers. Dealers have their role because you can listen to a product before you buy. So again you make assumptions and make an fool out of yourself.I named one specific snobby dealer. Why you would think I am attacking all dealers doesn't make sense. There are few excellent dealers in my region, but they are all biased and will push their gears. They do not have your best interest in mind which is understandable. After all, it's business, which in itself is not necrssarily bad. I buy from a dealer because I like the product, not because I buy into a dealers vested opinion. Your misguided emotional responses indicate you have a codependency problem with dealers. I know a good therapist for people like you.
The numerous responses agreeing with my experience on this thread indicate I struck a common nerve. You are in a small minority. I have a difficult time believing you are not somehow invested in a dealer.
I think you lied or misrepresented yourself in your original post and now instead of agreeing with my points you want to attack me as you backtrack to cover the error of your ways. Don't deny what you originally said - I usually don't visit high end dealers anymore, mainly because of the snobbish attitude of the sales peopleI named one specific snobby dealer. Why you would think I am attacking all dealers doesn't make sense.
Don't deny what you originally said - see my quote directly above and your original post!The numerous responses agreeing with my experience on this thread indicate I struck a common nerve. You are in a small minority. I have a difficult time believing you are not somehow invested in a dealer.
LOL! Sure the heck I invested with all my local dealers you numbskull - how in the heck can I listen before I buy?
The only common nerve I see you've struck is one with others who put price above quality or synergy. You know those who get off on audio by sending off money after looking at pictures and reading a review - kind of like getting off looking at some chick in Playboy except with audio you've got to send your money off for your fantasy.
And BTW with my nearly 30 years of audio experience a third of my equipment has been bought used or from authorized dealers selling mail order so I'm completely aware that not all product is available locally and that one can gain experience buying used.
You wanna get a couple of high fives around here for your hate dealer posts go for it - it usually brings out a crowd. I personally get kind of tired of hearing it and my response now is the same as it's been all along. I think most of you guys are cheap dips that would rather pay a $1000 for a $2000 component than take the time to find the $1000 component that worked best in your system.
Can someone get this idiot off this thread?
Just tell Don T his system sucks and yours is much much better. In addition make him aware that he could not peice together a decent system if you gave him a million dollars. But you will at least concede the state of art system that he would surely assemble would damn sure have nice big pretty meters. (That has to account for something right - hey, there are meters and it's expensive - what else do you need)If you just keep telling him is system sucks and nice big pretty meters suck - his head will explode! Mission accomplished!
Point well taken Groove. A man can be forgiven for being stupid or for being a snob, but not both like Don T. He would make great employee of some of these dealers we've been talking about. He believes he is above the rest of us because he buys at dealers and some how has falsely concluded in his deranged mind the rest of us don't. Must be difficult being Don T going through life without the faculty of reason.
Right on Pal! I think when to refer to "us" you mean all the audiophiles who live their audio lives vicariously through reading magazines and the internet.If you and your ilk aren't visiting dealers showrooms you're most likely not much more than wankers paying out through the mail for a fantasy.
But hey what the heck - you're saving some money right?
Don T Dumb. You never fail to impress me with display of your heroic stupidy. Perhaps its time to take your Aricept again.
than an attempt to get sucklers based on silly name calling and generalizations.We've got lots like you around here.
Give me rhythm or give me death!
How many times have I answered your questions? Still you don't seem to understand simple English and perpetuate lies. Long as you post on this thread, I will find even more creative names. So run Forest run!
I don't care how hard you try.
Give me rhythm or give me death!
With different and unique systems and we belong to audio clubs where we hear a wide array of different systems and gear. As opposed narrowign our universe on the gear carried by the local dealer.Oh BTW - we stop by the dealer every once and while just to kick the tires and waste the salesmen's time just so we can buy it off the web later!
And I visit all the audiophile quality shops in my town on a regular basis.
I will let you ponder that one on your own for a little while. Come back to me when you think you have it.
Really I am!
Give me rhythm or give me death!
But thanks anyway
I'm happy to have provided you with a venue from which you can announce it to the world!
Give me rhythm or give me death!
NT
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Give me rhythm or give me death!
Groove, that is just awesome. Hey Don T, which will win out? The irrestible force or the immovable rock?
Don T can be fun!
You nailed it my friend!
Groove, you are so tight about this guy. He's like a 2nd grader. I think his head will explode soon.
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