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In Reply to: Long rant on the SonyBMG rookit posted by J on April 16, 2007 at 22:14:49:
But the absolutely most amazing aspect of the entire thing to me is that...in spite of the rootkit being obviously illegal...and in spite of it being plagiarized to an extent...and in spite of the damage done to the careers of some of the affected artists...is that looking for rootkits is illegal. Uncovering their presence is illegal. Doing anything to alter them, or to remove them, is illegal.Russinovich broke the law every step of the way. And it doesn't matter that SonyBMG also broke the law, or that First4Internet broke the law. Every action that Russinovich took is, at least according to the multiple sources I looked to make sure I wasn't seeing things the more people started to report on this, in clear violation of the DMCA.
To make a long story short, Russinovich is helping the average music buyer, and you're some twit who is only interested in stretching the interpretation of some law sponsored by RIAA lobbyists and other scumbags. Pathetic. By your bullshit "logic", uncovering any virus is illegal. What an absolute freaking crock. "Looking for rootkits is illegal" GMAFB and FOAD.
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Is reading comprehension not yr strong suit? Assuming you're not joking, seek help.Assuming you're just trolling, then you know that my intent is to see a law put in place that protects intellectual property rights, yet would not cause those such as Russinovich who are looking for problems such as this one, to be running afoul of the law.
I'm not the one who was trying to twist the interpretation of the law. That's the law, and if I hadn't read about how Russinovich's actions related to it several times a day for weeks on end in late 2005, then I wouldn't know about it. And that's only part of what I found amazing.
Kindly direct yr anger at those who thought it was a good idea to criminalize people who do what Russinovich did, as well as those who were involved in the placement of the rootkit, and refrain from directing it at me, when all I'm doing is trying to point to the absurdity of the law itself (not to mention that I'm serious about my boycott of anything that says Sony on it, period, ever). If you'd like to have a pissy attitude about it, that's yr prerogative. I'm a nice guy, so I'll give you a mulligan. But yr post is--I'll be kind--misguided to an unbelievable extreme, and it would be wise of you to realize this.
Even after your post above, it still appears your view is that Russinovich broke the law. This is apparently at odds with how the court decided. If the court had decided that Russinovich had broken the law, I suspect that they would not have decided against Sony in this case. So you give the appearance of rather extreme hypocrisy here. Namely, you're attempting to discredit Russinovich, while claiming to be against Sony. I don't buy it. Not for a second. In my view, anybody attempting to discredit Russinovich is not on the side of the consumer - to put it mildly.I did in fact read your post, for all its verbosity. But reading someone's post is less difficult than reading their mind. In the post above, you expound on your supposed philosophy of how you think things should be. But there is absolutely nothing in your original post that suggests this to be your actual view. If you were to renounce this absurd view that "It's illegal to search for rootkits" when faced with maiicious software having been put on one's computer, then I might begin to take you seriously. And if your view is that this is what the DMCA says, then this suggests that the court that ruled against Sony misinterpreted the DMCA. I don't buy that either.
You're kidding, right? The court didn't find that Russinovich broke the law because that wasn't the issue brought before the court. Do you actually believe SonyBMG would've brought suit? Aside from the fact that it would've been laughed out of court to begin with, there would've been no basis once the security companies & Microsoft got on board & declared XCP to be malware.It's beyond comprehension how you could think that I'm doing anything but pointing out the absurdity of the law that was violated, but let me ask you this: if you're rushing someone to the hospital, and by exceeding the speed limit you might save their life, does it mean you're not breaking the law?
That's a dramatic analogy, but an accurate one. SOMEONE had to break the law in order to provide the necessary information to classify XCP for what it was. It couldn't be done otherwise, since SonyBMG represented it ONLY as copy protection.
What's so difficult about this to understand?
If you doubt my sincerity, that's fine. I've been fairly consistent in my posts on this site on any topic, including this one. For several years now. I invite you to check out that 80+ post thread on the second page of Rocky Road, since you seem to have some warped view of my opinion. And if you think I'm some kind of industry stooge, that's yr delusion. I say what I mean, and I mean what I say, and I AM serious when I say I will never again purchase a Sony product of ANY kind.
Until decided otherwise in a court of law, I will continue to maintain that illegal file-sharing is copyright infringement & not theft, and whoever says otherwise helps contribute to an environment where a much-needed overhaul of this absurd law will prove more problematic & difficult than it needs to be. My dismay at the devaluation of music is FAR exceeded by my disgust & loathing for the RIAA, their members, and their tactics. The mess the music business has become is due far less to their scapegoat of copyright infringement than they claim it is. Beyond that, I believe that the RIAA is an organization that involves a lot of people who know about things like business, and marketing, and precious little about music.
Sorry to change the subject, but I don't like being called a liar, pal. Meanwhile, you might find that thread interesting. But for now I'll link to this one, which I feel bad for having hijacked, and worse for making an enemy of someone I like & respect & agree with on many issues, but not this one. Continue to believe whatever you wish about me if it makes you feel better.
Have fun.
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