 
|
Audio Asylum Thread Printer Get a view of an entire thread on one page |
For Sale Ads |
|
|
Audio Asylum Thread Printer Get a view of an entire thread on one page |
For Sale Ads |
69.105.98.67
In Reply to: Speaker Measurements vs. Subjective Listening posted by lenw on February 18, 2007 at 11:26:57:
So the objectivist/subjectivist debate still has a faint gaspy breath left (bfd). As far as I'm concerned, if one does not well and truly enjoy listening to music. If they are not well and truly actually having fun. As in a romping rollicking goofy fun good time. Then they have my sympathy.Certainly some do enjoy reading Phile (no law agin masochism either). And some enjoy reading/watching their meters (even some tube amp manufacturers/designers). However one gets there, they get there. But not getting there, not having any fun? There still is a little fun left [in spite of what we've told the twenty-somethings ("we used all the fun up")]. There really is.
The fun is out there.
Follow Ups:
There are far too many speaker brands and models for one person to hear -- so measurements can steer you toward speakers that are more likely to be above average ... a group which may include something you really like.Better than flipping a coin, and not always in agreement with the "I'm so excited by this new product" reviews (text).
Most audiophiles (people who enjoy listening to recorded music) are also StereoEquipmentPhiles (people who like audio components) ... so some portions of our time is devoted to listening to music, and other portions are devoted to learning about audio, fine-tuning our systems and auditioning new components.
The only important question is whether an audiophile can 'put aside' the equipment and enjoy his music with a 'one-day-at-a-time' attitude: "My components are good enough for today and I will not find fault with them while I listen to my music".
.
.
.
Richard BassNut Greene
Subjective Audiophile 2007
It tends to mean that you end up listening to a lot of speakers with similar measurements and much less variation in sound than exists across the market as a whole. I think you can pre-select speakers for audition on the basis of characteristics that are important to you and sometimes, for example with speaker efficiency if the speaker is going to be used with a low power amp, it makes exceptional sense. You definitely don't want to waste your time with 85 dB efficient speakers if you're going to pair them with a 1-2 w/ch SET in a reasonable sized room.But I think shortlisting by specification is often unnecessarily limiting. It ensures that to some degree you won't be exposed to the full range of different approaches and products out there. It's possible that you might well be pleasantly surprised by a speaker you would not have chosen for audition on the basis of measurements. I've often found that some of the best things in life come as a surprise. I like to allow myself some leeway to be surprised whenever I can. When speaker shopping I tend to assemble a list of speakers in my price range that I am interested in for one reason or another, and to listen to anything else in that price range which the dealers I visit may have in their shops.
David Aiken
When I find two things I like equally well, that is.
After a period of time, on all the various audio forums. Patterns begin to emerge. Not necessarily clear in the beginning. But after time they can be divined. I.E. some people enjoy their hifi's, and listening to music, more than others. And ..... some general types of equipment could even be associated with those patterns. Which doesn't have a single foogin thing to do with Sterophile, measurements, audio equipment dealers, or how ever "many speaker brands and models" dance on the head of a pin.After going S.E.T. some eight or nine years ago, and then resultantly looking at measurements of commercial loudspeakers. I was steered only to fields of manure. I will not tread those fields again. I've built my own speakers the last five or so years, and don't anticipate any change in that m.o. during my lifetime.
From a previous post of mine, in High Efficiency: "Sometimes I'm so overwhelmed with the rich buttery sound carrying the music aloft, I exclaim to no one: uh huh .... that's right, I own the damn frequency!"
C'ya-bye :-)
This post is made possible by the generous support of people like you and our sponsors:
Top of Page ]
[ Contact Us ]
[ Support/Wish List ]
[ Copyright © 2024, Audio Asylum, all rights reserved ]
