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ok... this retard of an old fart who is the most condescending prick I have ever seen sells records and such on Melrose in LA...my advice after today's visit: stay clear
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I shouldn’t have used the words and language I did to describe what could have been an otherwise great browsing & shopping experience. Truth is, it was the farthest from it and I wanted to make sure no one else gets talked down to by this proprietor – not making note of his name and location, I thought I was in the clear by leaving it up to ambiguity.Anyway - my wife works with autistic children all day long so I should have really thought about my choice of words... (and yes, she already reprimanded me!)
Sorry!
...leads me to conclude you are 'developmentally delayed'.Do you have any understanding of tact, manners and what is acceptable in a public forum?
I remember some jerk who worked at Tower Records in Seattle being very arrogant and nasty. I suppose he's not the big 'music' expert now, his day probably consists of asking people if they want to super-size their order.I shouldn't enjoy that too much, the way companies are sending American jobs overseas I'll probably be next.
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doesn't sound as like his demeanor or M.O. has improved any in that time frame!
"I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
-Thomas Edison
suffered from Alzheimers, it suddenly became cruel to refer to his "senility." Or his imbecility.
Why? Out of respect for a condition over which he had no control. Out of respect to his family.
If a person has a physical disability, such as having been born with one arm...is it "funny" to use some clever putdown to refer to them or their unfortunate circumstance?
How about a person suffering from schizophrenia? I don't find "crazy" particularly amusing, do you?
If one agrees that making light-- attempting to find humor-- in the physical or emotional disabilities of others is neither amusing nor right, why would anyone find a developmental disability fertile suitable ground for humor?
My six-year old daughter and her friends occasionally find great mirth in calling out "fatty" "dummy" and other pejoratives, though she now understands more and more how hurtful they are.
I see some here have not yet reached that level.
The situation of being senile, retarded, crippled or insane is such that no matter what euphemism we employ to describe them people will start to get defensive and see the term as pejorative.It's like when saying "colored people" was a nice way to describe Negroes, then "colored people" became a pejorative and now has come full circle and is OK if twisted into "people of color".
Or when they came up with the euphemism "special" for retarded. Next thing you know kids are insulting each other by calling each other "special". Some things are bad things and calling them by different names won't make them good things.
It's all bullshit. You can't keep up with what's "nice". Of course one avoids obviously hateful terms but saying that the senile are in fact senile seems harmless to me. Or less harmless than pretending senility doesn't exist.
In my day job, I work with the disabled. Some are downs syndrome, other are purely physical disabilities, we get all sorts. It's taught me a few things about the nature of such language. The original poster was using 'retard' as a negative term to describe someone who presumably does not have mental retardation. I'm not PC, but when you use a term like that in hate, it's an attack on all those who the term could legitimately describe, as it correlates his negative attributes to all of those who really do have retardation.Some of these people can do impressive things- at my facility, we assemble STD testing kits for Roche Molecular services. And some retarded people are able to work on this job, which requires 100% quality control and reconciliations.
"I'm not PC, but when you use a term like that in hate, it's an attack on all those who the term could legitimately describe, as it correlates his negative attributes to all of those who really do have retardation."
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perhps danny is using the epithet 'retard' in its proper application. the old fart has a retarded sense of decency towards the record buying public.ive been there and as soon as someone shows real interest in a record, the price begins to stratify.
what i object to is calling him a prick. a prick IS useful, the old fart-NOT.
...regards...tr
perhaps, perhaps not. Perhaps no such thing as "proper application" in this kind of context. Maybe with respect to motion or some such thing.
you are the arbiter of political correctness. i still dont go to that record store.if we cannot use words in their defined description, then i think we are onn the verge of nearly total censorship.
hey danny----- no problem with the "condescending prick" or "old fart" opprobriums, but the other term you throw around, "retard", is a real pejorative term for people who are educationally handicapped due to low cognitive abilities; it is simply demeaning and hurtful and probably does not convey what you mean.don't mean to impose a p.c. approach, but, rather, to just inform you that real people get hurt by use of that term.
You got the expected handful of reactionary responses to your comment, but as the father of one who has been hurt by people using that term often in his 25 years, I appreciate it.
What I would suggest is that these comments probably hurt you more than they did your child.You cant for one moment convince me that comments of this nature do not hurt normal children as much, nor that these comments are more commonly experienced by a "handicapped" person than they are by a person who is unattractive, overweight or just plain different.
I've seen the hurt and anger in my son's face when he has been called a retard. I feel it too. Don't want to belabor the point, it's just a word.
calling people who have a different outlook "reactionary".
The pc sword can cut both ways.
enjoy,
mark
When you think "insensitive" take a look in the mirror.
actually if you really want to get pc and you apparently do . . . "hadicapped" is pejorative too.so is "disabled" and "crippled" is well . . . . beyond the pale.
You must say mentally-challenged or "A person with a disability.'
Like wise I wouldn't dare call you anally-retentive, but rather a person of puckered butt! ;-)
The PC correct term actually is "developmentally disabled". I worked with people like that for a while.
What year(s)?
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not to split regulatory hairs, but "developmentally disabled" , at least in Massachusetts is used up to age nine ( hence, the use of the term "developmental".after age nine, the disability category is "intellectually impaired". i guess if you want to get the federal definition, you should take a gander at the new 2004 definitions.as for pc or not pc, i dont give a fat rat's ass. i guess i would just stick with the legal definition, and let it go with that.
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Right, words can have more than one meaning or use. And I imagine no one gets offended about the use of the word "retard" as a verb describing whatever it is that's done to timing. But your "joke" fits right in there with the other posters who see nothing wrong with any use of language, no matter its effect on other people. PC or no, who cares? I bet that even the aa bored of the rings directors have limits to the kind of language they will allow here--although I am beginning to doubt that more and more.
As an "old fart" maybe I'm hurt by the "old fart" comment. I mean....I didn't ask to be an old fart. It just happened. Or maybe I'm offended by the color of someone's shirt or which side of your head you part your hair. Or...........maybe I'm hurt and offended that you HAVE hair, since mine seems to be disappearing......well, except in my nose and ears where it now seems to thrive. Maybe I'm just too sensitive. I know they have "sensitivity" classes for people such as Danny who has been deemed as "not sensitive enough". But do they conduct classes for those of us who may be overly sensitive? (not that I am of course. It was just a crazy thought from someone who awakened entirely too early.)
That's funny artemus.
He enjoys sitting in his moldy store and selling nothing.
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of the Bodhi Tree.Just sayin'....
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