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In Reply to: Agreed, two good examples. posted by Bob Neill on March 2, 2006 at 15:32:43:
"nasty 6550's" I too have never liked amps with that tube; they sound so harsh and harmonically bleached. My current amp, Audionote (uk) Kageki's are, compared to my pushpull 45 amps, on the lean side, but they are not bleached and unpleasant sounding.
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Hi Larry,Are you talking about Vu's (Deja Vu Audio) push/pull 45 amps? If so, I used to own them and agree that were on the rich/lush side of the fence. Bass was on the loose and tubby side too. I'm very interested in the Audionote Kageki's. How do the two amps differ?
Yes, it is a Deja Vu pushpull 45. It is quite a remarkable amp -- well balanced, rich and reasonably detailed. One feels at ease when listening to this amp (meaning it sounds natural and non-mechanical, not that it is languid and dead sounding).The Kageki is a bit leaner and dynamic sounding (sort of commands attention a bit more). It has a much more airy and dimensional top end that is quite thrilling to hear. It's hard to describe, but SETs just seem to be more intimate and able to connect the listener more directly with the music. Of course, there is that slight difference in cost.
Hi Larry,The Deja Vu 45 amps that I owned had the upgraded Audionote slver foil capacitors in them. I also owned Vu's preamp as well with upgraded Black Gate capacitors. The combination was very very lush and musical but a little bit too much for my taste. Serves me right for allowing to be talked into upgrading parts without first hearing what they sound like. It certainly sounds like the Kageki's are a step up in performance. Take care!
Larry will tell you more from firsthand experience, but I love their little brothers, the Neiros, which also have the 2A3 tubes. I have compared them extensively with 300B tube amps and find them leaner in a good way. I find 300 amps (I haven't heard the Shinri's, 300B amps that are comparable to the Neiros) a bit too lush. I have not heard a 45 amp and so will also be interested in what Larry says.
One 300B amp that breaks the lush mold are the Wyetech Sapphire's that I own. Very dynamic with fantastic bass and an absolute bargain ($6,800) in this crazy hobby. However, I'm interested in hearing what an upper-end Audionote ampliifer sounds like in my system.
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