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In Reply to: Any Experiences With Denon Versus Pioneer Universal Players posted by Robertc88 on March 14, 2007 at 06:51:27:
The Pioneer sounded more liquid and warm, tonally dense and layered, but not to an extreme.The Denon was very detailed, but a bit brighter and lighter... almost shrill at times.
Other Pioneer players that I've heard (casually) tend to have a similar sound... ditto for the Denons.
Cheers
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I have owned both a Pioneer DVD-47 (pre "i")and the Denon 2900. Personally I don't think it was even close that the Denon outperformed the Pioneer across the board on audio but may have had a crisper picture on video versus what seemed at the time a softer image on the Denon.
I almost bought a 3910 recently. I tried a new power cord for the Pioneer instead. The sound is very good indeed.Cheers
First of all I just felt the overall sound quality was better. Specifically the Denon had a wider and deeper soundstage. I thought the Pioneer sounded lean. A lot of times the differences you hear between products may not be a matter of good versus bad but simply a personal preference.As an example I had auditioned some Kimber Kable speaker cables to compare them to my current AudioQuest. There was an immediate and distinct difference between the two and I preferred my AQ. In this case I thought the Kimber sounded "fatter". I have just upgraded my speakers. I was at the same dealer buying a power cord and he suggested I try the Kimber again with the new speakers. The immediate difference is gone, the fatter sound is gone. It will take me a while to listen and decide if I should make a change.
FWIW, I've heard several Pioneers, and I still have my "built-like-a-tank" Denon DVD-5900. I do prefer the richness of the Denon compared with the rather lightweight Pioneers.The Denon also has twin-SHARC processors for hirez bass management & time alignment with DVDA.
It may actually be better with SACD and DVD-A than I'm giving it credit for. It is not broken in at all for music listening for those. I'm going to give it more time before I try a Pioneer.BTW, the 46avi that Best Buy currently stocks has 4 open boxes just in my store. Now I know that does not have anything to do with its playing music but....
The Pioneer DV-46 is the entry-level player in the Elite lineup... I think MSRP is $300. May be a minor improvement over the Denon, maybe not! My experience is primarily with my DV-47ai, a quite different animal that was significantly more costly when it was new.If you really want to try a Pioneer universal player, you should probably be looking at the DV-79avi... a very nice machine that's available for $6-700. The Denon 2910 would be its natural competition.
Me, I'm keeping the Pioneer for now... but will soon be looking for a nice CD only machine (90% of my digital music collection is on CDs). Rega and Cary are likely candidates. I definitely won't be buying a new universal machine anytime soon... there's just not enough software coming out for either Hi-Def format to satisfy me!
Cheers
nt
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