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In Reply to: Re: What is the origin of this recording? posted by azure on April 5, 2006 at 06:14:06:
DVD A is near dead.
sa-cd is slighly less near dead.If sa-cd is very dead then 64*fs DSD is finished too.
Hires PCM is very much alive. Regardless of the state of DVD Audio.
Bring on the next generation hires formats.
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FrankI have only compared the HD DSD stereo programme with the 1979 Stereo MFSL Half Speed Master Lp.
and, have not compared the SACD version with the 1994 PCM remaster RBCD nor original PCM master for RBCD..
So I cannot make any comparisons here with the previous CD releases nor surround vs. quad mix.There is a bit of controversy out there regarding the source of the stereo program... many people have reported that there is little difference between the earlier CD, and many have not acknowledged which previous version they have compared it to.
My question is Did the stereo HD and CD layer programmes originate from the original analog stereo master or from one of the PCM masters
At worst they have sourced it from the first 80s PCM master
At best it may have been sourced from the 1994 PCM remaster
Ideally it did come from the original analog masterIf the stereo program was only a "DSD remaster" from the original analog master i gather unlike the surround mix: PCM would not have been involved.....is this true Frank?
It appears you know more about the actual mastering then I
Seriously I would like your thoughts on this.....
"My question is Did the stereo HD and CD layer programmes originate from the original analog stereo master or from one of the PCM mastersAt worst they have sourced it from the first 80s PCM master
At best it may have been sourced from the 1994 PCM remaster
Ideally it did come from the original analog master"There is a fourth option:
A new mix from the analog multitracks.I'nm not shure about the origin of the stereo tracks.
I have read on SH forum that the PCM remaster was used for the 20th anniversary release.The G. multichannel remix is sourced from the analog multitracks.
These where transferred to 24/96 PCM digital multitrack.
Mixed in PCM and mastered in PCM and converted to DSD.
(Conversion to DSD is usually the last step in the mastering proces)This was explained in an article in a pro audio mag.
The quad mix is said to be sourced from the analog quad master.
That's pretty certain.Before makin any comment on this 'bootleg' make shure you have heard it in a good system.
It's less polished than the G. mc mix. But far more involving.
This mix really draws you in.
Reverb and other effects are beautifull layered and spread out across the channels.
Frank
As has been repeatedly stated and proven over and over again, both the 2ch and 5.1 mixes on the DSOTM SACD were taken from the original analog tapes, and kept completely in the analog domain until the DSD transfer was done.Guthrie even built some plate reverb units so he wouldn't have to run the tapes through a digital reverb. All of this has been documented in REAL pro (and consumer) audio magazines, as opposed to the made-up sources you are claiming.
I know you have an axe to grind over DSD and SACD, but I can't understand why you feel compelled to lie to support your position.
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