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In Reply to: Ken Ken Ken posted by Dawnrazor on March 19, 2007 at 17:12:12:
to produce some form of packaging and graphics. Thanks for showing me that. Do you find that generally everything available on the CD liner is available online?? I still don't like the fact that I have to invest my time and effort to create the liner, as well as decent paper stock and color ink cartridges to print the digital content on.Many of my CD's have small booklets included. Is this kind of thing easily reproduced, or is it a real effort or work? I'm a busy guy - I'd rather not spend time ripping to CD or manufacturing the CD liner. I have to wonder over time, as CD's are phased out, if the music companies will continue to provide the same amount of liner information that is commonplace with CD's and LP's - or will that get phased out as well, since the younger generation seems to like downloading individual songs.
I'd like to have a music server or squeeze box set up (I've been looking at RAM and Red Wine Oliva units) for the wonderful conveniences, but I still would rather have the CD media and its packaging (especially the box sets) and the OPTION to put the music on my hard drive, music server, I-POD, whatever (much less effort than producing a liner). Maybe its because I grew up on LP's. Hi-rez over a higher bandwidth network - perhaps with better accompanying graphics - would compell me to abandon discs completely.
Ken
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Hey Ken.I guess I wasn't clear. There is no printing of the liner notes. The goal is to display it electronically.
But the easiest is to just use the original cd liners that you already have. I have a book of them that I can access, but hardly ever do. The exception is stereophile test disks.
But, all it would require is a photo of the liner or a digital scan. Then you would have it electronically. And depending on your programs, you could easily display these pictures. The cover art and lyrics are automatically done when it is available.
Squeeze boxes just give a text read out, so you could use that and then look at the cd liner note.
Or if you have a touchscreen monitor or laptop or wireless touch screen, or pda... then you would have the "liner notes" at your finger tips.
One thing I am fining is that I know more lyrics now, since they don't always show up in the liner notes, but are available on line sometimes, I have MORE info than the liner notes.
You are right that one day hopefully, it will all be digital.
"I guess I wasn't clear. There is no printing of the liner notes. The goal is to display it electronically."I guess I wasn't clear either. No disputing the convenience of downloaded music, servers, jukebox software, displaying excellent images online, etc. However - there's a lot of other things I like in those CD jackets, other than the lyrics.
For example, in my new David Bromberg CD "Try Me One More Time", there's a lot of good stuff in the "liner notes". This is not just lyrics and artist pictures, it's a lot of annotations Bromberg provided with each song - stories about what inspired each song, stories about his encounters with Blind Rev Gary Davis, Bob Dylan etc.
For these same reasons, I often opt for the "deluxe" versions of remastered CD's (Johnny Winter, Muddy Waters, John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers, Jeff Buckley to name just a few) that often contain extra printed material, unreleased tunes, B-sides, etc. The Box Sets have more impressive printed materials (CSN, Steely Dan, Pentangle, Dylan to name a few). I was just lamenting that they're not (likely) providing all of that online with my purchased download.
Ken
Yeah, those things are really nice.I assume you are going to keep the cds after you copy them, so just keep the liner notes, and have the best of all worlds.
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. I may be pinging you for advice on a music server solution in the future, if you don't mind.
Ken
Let me put in my vote for Sonos... High sound quality, incredible convenience. It has transformed the way I listen to music, far more than a Squeezebox could - it all has to do with interface. And yes, I do keep all my CD inserts handy so that I can page through them when I'm listening. But not having to deal with the physical CD when I want to listen to something has transformed how I listen. No joke. See my thoughts on this on Audiogon at the link below...J
- http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?icomp&1128404134&openusid&zzJohn_ops&4&5#John_ops (Open in New Window)
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