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In Reply to: Interesting. posted by UN on February 4, 2007 at 09:21:24:
There is nothing quite like EAC. Maybe, and I say maybe, the RUR software in the Memory Player - but that's not the same price as EAC. All the author of EAC wants is a postcard sent to him.I don't know of anyone (who has managed to configure EAC correctly) who switched off EAC to another reading software. It does everything you could want, and does it correctly.
Regards,
Geoff
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Same philosophy as EAC, reads in secure mode, AccurateRip lookup, but slightly more advanced implementation.For example, it tries to vary the read speed on successive passes to improve the chances of a successful read.
Also, it is smart enough to disable the cache on Plextor drives using FUA.
In various tests, dbpoweramp seems to rip faster than EAC for AccurateRip discs on my plextor drive.
Plextools itself comes with a secure ripping mode that's supposedly as good as EAC - I haven't tried this.
I'll look into it, Christine.
Regards,
Geoff
I've probably compared at least 30 CDs ripped using both EAC and Plextools over a period of time. The checksum is always the same. Now I always used Plextools because I can rip a CD in 2-3 minutes. I have also compared about 20 CDs in Plextools ripping at 4x or 8x and letting Plextools ripping as fast as it can (it reaches 32x towards the last track). The checksum was always the same.
Please excuse me Sir.
Do you think that this could be a total guarantee of a perfect ripping ?
I always rip in burst mode and use the action "test & copy selected tracks".
And usually get same CRC for testing and copying.
By the way I strongly believe that the critical phase is indeed the BURNING phase.
From what I have gathered here and there EVERYTHING counts.
The PC and its power supply, the burner and its PS, the media, the burner's firmware, the speed, .....
Not an easy process indeed.Kind regards,
bg
Before Plextools I used to use EAC. I did a lot of reading on EAC and many people including the author of EAC used to rip in burst mode and use the action "test & copy selected tracks". ONLY when they got mismatched CRCs did they then go back and do a secure rip. So I think your method is good for a perfect rip if you don't get CRC mismatches. I believe most modern drives with CDs in good condition will get an accurate rip 99% of the time. Things like EAC and Plextools are just for the perfectionist folks like us :)
I like dbpoweramp because most of the time it is faster than EAC. It does the first pass in burst mode and then performs an AccurateRip checksum comparison. It only retries in secure mode if the checksum fails (or the disc is not in AccurateRip). This optimistic approach is really good because it means that most of the time it's reading the disc as fast as possible. Sounds like PlexTools is doing something similar.I have ripped over 700 CDs onto my 1 terabyte NAS, and almost all of them rip with no problems at high speeds. I think the differences between the programs become meaningful for the very few discs that are difficult (because of scratched surfaces etc.)
EAC tends to never really recover from a bad read, no matter how many times it retries. The idea of dbpoweramp varying the read speed between passes is a good one. Whether it actually results in a higher probability of a successful read is open for debate.
Plextools also slows down the drive to retry. One day when I was ripping using PlexTools and getting retries on some tracks, I decided after that rip to re-rip that CD at 8x and discovered Plextools did not have to undergo retires. The checksums were different between the two rips. Since I save all my log files, I went to the 10 or so CDs that had to undergo retries and re-ripped then at 8x. In all cases no retries were required at 8x. My procedure now, is if Plextools has to retry, I cancel out and re-rip at a fixed 8x. Make me feel better to have a clean log file :)
Good to hear Plextools is doing a good job - I just got an external Plextor Drive PX-755UF and use plextools to do the rips. However, so far the logs have not recorded a single error after 150 CDs (I guess my CD are in pristine shape). I did notice a slowdown to 8 CLV on longer running Discs.
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Alexander von Humboldt (1769-1859)
I noticed that when dbpoweramp encounters an error, the first thing it does is slow the drive speed down to 8x. Sounds like it knows what it is doing.
(nt)
I use Maxell CD-Rpro gold. These are made by Taiyo Yuden which are considered one of the best manufacturers. I burn at 4x. The burnt CDs sound better than the original.
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