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Are antijitter boxes like the Audio Alchemy DTI still worth using today if using a modern dac/transport?? What about between a sound card and dac?
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Depends on the transport but I have found that it makes a definite and noticeable improvement with every transport I have tried my Monarchy Audio DIP except one; the PS Audio Lambda. Otherwise, the improvement is not really subtle.
I think an anti jitter box has been mandatory with most of the transports I have owned or tried, in order to get the best sound out of them. I have an older Micromega dac that does not have its own jitter reduction circuitry.
While I have owned an Audio Alchemy DTI 2.0 and DTI Pro, they both died after several years of constant use.
I can't cost justify an expensive transport for a 2nd system, so I'm using a Pioneer DV-578as as a transport. It's not bad but not great by itself.
However, when coupled with a jitter reduction device, it's performance rivals the more expensive dedicated transports (like a Parasound belt drive) that I have owned.
Based on an earlier thread here I just bought a Behringer Ultramatch Pro SRC2496 and I am using it as a jitter reduction device. So far, going from memory, I would say it performs as well, if not better than the Audio Alchemy DTI 2.0, it replaces. I paid $95 for it brand new and I think it is quite a bargain at the price.
I use a Monarchy DIP 24/96 between my OPPO 971 DVD and my receiver and it makes a huge difference on surround sountracks and movies IMHO.
Hi. I use a two box setup wih one of my systems (a system that I use mainly to make copies of CDs) to make duplicates of CDs.I go from transport (a modified Muse Model 10 transport) into a Sonic Frontiers Ultra Jitterbug, from there into a Genesis Digital Lens, and then into a DAC (MSB Platinum with Signature DACs) or the CD recorder (a heavily modified Yamaha with hard disk). The DAC helps me compare the results of the copying process. As the Ultrajitterbug has multiple inputs, I connect the Yamaha to the Ultrajitterbug to compare results with the originals.
The results are extremely good compared to the setup without the anti jitter boxes.
On the other hand, for my main systems I do not use any anti jitter box as I do not need them.
Happy listening!
without it I get audible noise from my PC s/pdif out, with it...dead silence. not to meantion great sound...I think the way to go is laptop vs. PC. battery power is better
Absolutely, if they use the correct technology. Asynchronous upsamplers help, but do not really reduce jitter to inaudible levels. They are also typically affected by jitter in the incoming stream.On the other hand true reclockers, that buffer the data and reclock it out with a low jitter master clock really work. Hearing music with inaudible jitter is usually a revelation for most audiophiles. Reclockers for use between computer and Wi-Fi or computer and USB will be available soon.
Trouble is there is virtually no choice in the market, especially high sampling rate ones. Maximum is 96k.Definitely worth it.
What are some of the good ones on the market?? Ive ordered a Zhaolu 2.5 dac to connect to my my PC. I will be using my XFI spdif output, and ive read its not exactly a low jitter sound card. Would I be better off with an anti-jitter box, or just a better sound card??
The Big Ben really works, but it's expensive compared to your audio card. I have also heard about another true S/PDIF reclocker, but I cannot remember it.
Genesis digital lens, thats the one I could not remember. Have heard good things about this. I believe it is a true reclocker.
There are currently Monarchy Audio and MAudio CO3.The Sonic Frontier Ultrajitterbug is good but I think the jitter reduction is limited. The Assemblage D2D is good but don't use the upsampler. Monarchy Audio and D2D are good to 96k.
Don't know any other. My UA2192 has clock cleaning and the dCS 972 too.
Sorry Im kind of a newbie to all this digital stuff. What you guys are saying is that there are basically two types of "anti-jitter" devices, the true reclocker and the async sample rate converter? And a true reclocker is more effective at reducing jitter? What category do the classic AA DTI and Monarchy DIP fall under?? I was under the assumtion that these were reclockers? And something like the Behringer src2496 was the Async resampler. Am I on the right track?
The DIP and Behringer are ASync upsamplers. The AA device I believe is a reclocker, but limited to 44.1 I believe. Way ahead of its time..
Does the Maudio reduce jitter as well as covert optical to spdif or aes?
M-Audio devices CAN reduce jitter over that of the USB bus, but only if the board design is well-executed and the PLL clock is low jitter. Stock stuff just doesnt have these things IMO. There will still be jitter due to the clock and the PLL.
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