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I am looking at buying a new CD player and have read the posts in the last few months regarding the Apollo CD player. It looks like that it has quite a few issues. One of them is that it is necessary to wait for initialization to finish before pressing buttons, or it may crash.Is Rega trying to fix this? I am quite surprise that some users are happy about the work around and don't consider this as software 'bug'. But shouldn't Rega fix this problem in the latest shipments and give the current user a software update? I guess it should at least lock out the buttons (which should be very very easy to do, and it is much more acceptable to me). Why do we have to tolerate this kind of lousy software? How do we trust the company to make reliable products if they don't even check for bugs like this? (To me, software should not crash no matter what the user input is).
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I don't suffer from hallucinations and when I first got it and tried to press buttons before initialization completed I DID have problems. Since I've started waiting for the 4-8 seconds it takes to initialize I HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS - ZERO - NADA - ZIP!This is the best CDP I have ever owned (and I've owned at least a dozen), this is also IMO the best CDP in the $1K range (and I've auditioned many). One of my best audio purchases EVER.
The Apollo has changed my listening habits from 99% vinyl to a more even 60/40 vinyl/CD in the past few months. I could not tolerate other CD players for more than a CD or so because of the harshness, but I can, and do, listen to the Apollo without fatigue for hours on end.
DON'T HESITATE TO BUY IT BECAUSE OF EARLIER REPORTS ABOUT BUGS, YOU'LL MISS OUT ON A TRUE BARGAIN.
Alberto
Where did you get the idea that the player crashed?
I don't recall that ever being mentioned, I did read about turning it off and on again to cure a problem, I suppose that is re-booting but this is a CD player not a computer!
The Apollo is the best player for the money available. It out performs many players costing a lot more.
It has just been voted player of the year in its class by HiFi Choice magazine in the UK. (The Saturn won its class too).
There have been some software mods and there were some problems with early models. The player has been available in the UK for about a year now. There has been nothing like the number of posts on any UK forum about problems with the Apollo as there has on here.Most of the alarmist posts I have read on here have not come from owners, and those that have are not getting rid of their players!
I owned an Apollo for 8 months and the only reason I haven't got it now is that I own a Saturn.
The Saturn does totally lock out the controls until it finishes initializing btw.Why don't you demo the player, try the control system but above all listen to it!
Well, I am going to listen to it soon at the dealer and may take it home for a home trial if allowed. I am not against Rega at all and I am actually interested in the Apollo myself. Just that I am surprised how tolerant audiophiles are on software problems. And I just wonder why Rega didn't prevent this kind of problems happening in the first place (it is easy to detect and prevent), but leaves it to the user to make sure it runs properly.I just want to know how serious the problems actually are, because I would like to get a trouble free player that last 10 years, not a good sound player that only work for 1 year!
Rega fixed the initial problem with the Apollo and if you purchase an Apollo now it will function exactly like it's supposed to. The initialization process takes seconds (4-8 sec depending on the cd in my experience) so you need to be just a wee bit patient before you push the play button. If you can't wait for more than 4 seconds you shouldn't buy this cd player.Tom
PS: The Rega Apollo does NOT have a problem. It doesn't crash if you're impatient. But if you ARE impatient, this may not be the cd player for you. It'll bug you every time you wait for it to initialize.
That's great, A few seconds is not a problem for me at all. Thanks for your info.
The player reading the disc and 'initializing' are part of the design for this player. It takes about 4 seconds to read a disc. Not a problem for me.The sound quality of this player really is in another league. If I have to wait till I get to my chair to hit 'play', I can live with that. There were some bad solder problems in the first batch of players, but that was over six months ago.
I agree that it is not a problem to wait for a few seconds (or even 10-20secs) for it to initialize, but I think the user should be safe to press any buttons without crashing the unit. I am sure that if windows crashes when the user press 'Enter' within 2sec of bootup, it will be treated as a 'bug'.BTW, I have also seen people saying that there are glitches or skip the first track on playing some disc and may not respond to some button presses (pause etc). Are these all sorted?
to hit the play button, then yes, it might skip the first second of play. That happened to me once when I first tried mine. But if you have just the slightest amount of patience, and hit play when you're supposed to after it initializes, it operates just as it should. I haven't had the Apollo skip the first second ever since, now that I use it properly.Tom
PS: My Apollo has never crashed. Not once. Even when I didn't use it correctly.
Think of it this way, when you put the cd in wait for the cd player to do it's thing(read the disc and do the error correction 'stuff') By the time you are sitting down you can push play. Most reviews explain why Rega designed the Apollo with the new transport, software.
Theprieb
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