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In Reply to: Maybe you'd prefer... posted by mkuller on March 21, 2007 at 11:15:09:
"LOL! As opposed to the distortion inherent in transitor sound?
That statement sounds like something Aczel would say."-- Yes.
Suggest you read the article on "valve sound" available online at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_sound. - Note the paragraph that begins: "In particular, it turns out that the "warmth" and "richness" typically associated with "valve sound" is DUE TO SIGNIFICANT LEVELS OF 2ND ORER DISTORION, typically coming from a single ended (and thus by definition class A) SE stage, often the output stage. This being a classic tube amp design."
I'm not saying that SS doesn't have it's own forms of distortion, merely that the preference for tubes may relate to a preference for the "warmth and richness" resulting from such 2nd order distortion.
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as tubies would have us believe. That ever so slight rolloff of tubes has also been known to smooth out the high frequencies of metal dome tweeters and the dreaded digital glare of red book. This is often miscredited to such things as linearity...It sounds like Aczel makes objective observations and sticks by them. While never having read his widely trashed publication myself, at least he probably never had said that his opinion was subjective. Does he trash subjectivists as much as they freely trash him?
Aczel versus John Atkinson for a discussion of whatever comes up at Hi Fi '07. I'd almost forgo a live music demo at the show for that one.
Certainly not frequencies."Note the more extended ultrasonic bandwidth of tetrode compared with triode in these graphs: –3dB at 115kHz vs –3dB at 87kHz, respectively. "
> Aczel versus John Atkinson for a discussion of whatever comes up...>It was JA vs Arny Kruger a couple of years ago at a Stereophile Show, IIRC.
Kruger is a noted radical objectivist on rec.audio-opinion, rabid pro-DBTer and co-inventor of the ABX box.
Arny was more bark than bite. It was JA by a unanimous decision.
You can probably find a transcript on the Stereophile site.
Azcel is now just an embittered, angry old man - not much theater in seeing him get out-debated.
In the debate, Arny Krueger wiped the floor with John Atkinson. Atkinson wasn't able to make a single point against his arguments.The link below is to a rather self-serving article by Jason Victor Serinus article which includes a link to the an audio file of the debate. The link is in the editor's note just above the picture.
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"Opposition brings concord. Out of discord comes the fairest harmony."
------Heraclitus of Ephesis (fl. 504-500 BC), trans. Wheelwright.
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