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DIY speaker builders at Madisound.com did a blind cap comparison a few years ago and could not hear differences

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Richard BassNut Greene

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In Reply to: "Caps sound different" or how an audio myth is born posted by KlausR. on March 6, 2007 at 01:29:36:

But what do they know?
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Richard BassNut Greene
Subjective Audiophile 2007

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that says something about THEM - hifitommy 20:09:52 03/06/07 (4)
i cant fathom that ARC and many other electronics makers would waste their efforts loading their product with superior caps and resistors if there werent a sonic benefit.
lets just say that the madisound group needs a bit more education and experience.

...regards...tr
- Re: that says something about THEM - andy19191 00:10:30 03/07/07 (3)
  > i cant fathom that ARC and many other electronics makers would waste
  > their efforts loading their product with superior caps and resistors
  > if there werent a sonic benefit.
  Audiophile kit is made to be sold. If customers are buying kit with a particular gizmo and your hardware does not have this gizmo what is a rational manufacturer going to do?
  A good example of this discussed recently in these pages is Roger Russell's latest speaker which uses an audiophile brand wire despite his well known web page discussing the performance of wire. I think it is fairly safe to assume that this was not used because of any belief in superior sound on the manufacturers part but because he judged the extra cost for the branded wire would increase the attractiveness of his speakers to his customers.
  - its another conspiracy - hifitommy 07:51:02 03/07/07 (2)
    i will just suppose that ARC, counterpoint, and cj equip sounds glorious in SPITE of the fact they all use premium inner components. they might just as well have sourced from ratshack.
    HAH!
    
    ...regards...tr
    - Re: its another conspiracy - john curl 12:56:08 03/07/07 (1)
      This is the situation. We use good parts, BECAUSE they sound better, especially when listening over a long period of time, than other parts. We, and that includes AR, would like to find cost effective parts that sound great. It would lower our manufacturing costs and some of this could be passed on to the consumer. I suspect that most AR customers don't care what brand or type of cap is being used. They just want it to sound better than a mid fi alternative that they could easily get at a local outlet.
      Good parts usually measure better also. It may be difficult to measure the differences so almost no one tries, because it was just too difficult. However, listening comparisons, especially over a period of time, bring out what works, and what doesn't work.
      - john, i hope you realize i was being snide - hifitommy 19:03:09 03/08/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: its another conspiracy posted by john curl on March 7, 2007 at 12:56:08:
        
        i of course believe that components like wondercaps and vishay resistors actually DO sound better. when i got my sp3a1 into the system, not much else i've heard compares in sound.
        the conspiracy i refer to is the one that is alluded to at critics corner where the reviewers conspire with the makers for profit (as IF).
        
        ...regards...tr
More importantly, what can they hear? (nt) - E-Stat 19:37:34 03/06/07 (0)
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