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In Reply to: Audioquest Panther with 72V DBS posted by jam.verschuren@hetnet.nl on February 13, 2007 at 05:54:08:
Have you lost your mind.95% of more performance with the 72v.The 36v is more then sufficient.While were at it why not consider 120v or better yet 240v.
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Sorry for the outburst.It's just that reading this whole thread not one person said anything about the ingredients of the IC itself.This seems to me far more important then the DBS charge alone.
"...then (sic) the DBS charge alone."Think a little here, Fairbanks--each of us ALREADY HAS the cable.
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Do me a favor,If or once you purchuse the 72v DBS upgrade please do a review of it.I'd like to validate the substantial differences that original poster stated.I just find it hard to believe.That's all.
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The orignal poster was comparing the Panther to the Colorado,two differently made IC's.He said the Panther with 72v was almost the equvilent to the Colorado which has 72v.So I assuming from what the poster said that the Colorado's make up isn't that much different than the Panther.Sounds like a slap together Panther if you ask me.When first introduced the Jaguar,Panther,Cheetah had 12v and later changed to 36v.If you think about it why wouldn't AQ put a 72v on the Jaguar,Panther,Cheetah if they thought it would yield greater improvement.They must have thought the 36v was suffient.
Hi,When Audioquest first introduced DBS they thought that a DC voltage of 12V would be sufficient because 12V is higher then the audio signal. Later they discovered that increasing the DBS voltage gave more sonic improvements. They made three steps, 12V, 24V and 36V for the big cat series. AQ discovered that above 50V there was no sonic improvements so 72V is a bit of over kill. From a marketing point of view there is no need for further improvement of the big cat series. The new introduced river series have to be better. AQ always introduces new cables if there is greater sonic improvement. That is the reason why AQ did not put the 72V DBS on the big cat series. The Sky was the only IC with the 72V DBS.
Thanks for a rational explanation.Having never heard the Colorado I would think there are more features to it then just a 72v DBS pack.
Hi,The River IC series have now cold welded plugs and noise reduction. I noticed that the Niagara IC now has larger teflon tubes than the Cheetah IC. The DBS also helps to reduce background noise due to fact that the battery for RFI is a short circuit. My advice for people who already have a Jaguar, Panther or Cheetah is to buy a 72V DBS upgrade than buying a new IC from the River series. Unless you want a step forward in the IC range.
A 72v on the on the Jaguar,Panther and Cheetah?Your acting like you stumbled upon some great discovery.For the last time 36v is sufficent.
Let me try to explane. Is there more sonic improvement when you upgrade the DBS to 72V. Yes that is what AQ have done in the new Rivers series. Do you doubt the expertice of AQ?
...as if it's cast-in-concrete fact.Some of us apparently have heard sonic improvements going from 36V. to 72V systems. Why can't you accept that even if YOU can't hear it or even if no one can offer scientific 'proof', there can be an sonic improvement?
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I Give up.Have a nice day.
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I suspect that all respondents are quite familiar with the captivating 3 dimensional sound delivered by the AQ DBS ICs. If the IC can be improved upon by simply increasing the voltage at a reasonable cost, the prospect is most intrigueing.
Whatever,I'm content with the Cheetah and Jaguar at 36v they way AQ released them.If you think that a $150 72v DBS pack would yield greater improvment go for it.It's a hobby suspose.I however can't justify such an expense.
Hi,For me it was very simple. I bought the Panther IC 9 months ago. At AQ they tell you that the Colorado is much better than the Panther to encourage you to buy the Colorado IC. But I realised that much of the sonic improvement of the Colorado is due to the 72V DBS, so it is cheaper to buy the 72V DBS upgrade for the Panther than spending much more bucks on a new AQ IC. I'm interested in a direct comparison between the Colorado IC and the Panther 72V DBS IC.
AQ tells you the Colordao is better and rightly so because of some new features that are added to it.The Panther is of a different make up or rather an old design.What in the world are you trying to accomplish here.Your scattered brained all over this thread.
You do not understand marketing. AQ always tells you that they have introduced a better cable because they wants you to buy a new IC. In both cases AQ sells you a product and is Ok for them.
If you have a problem with AQ and think there's something shady going on I would suggest looking at other IC's.
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