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In Reply to: Re: Would you please specify... posted by Willis on January 15, 2007 at 11:11:21:
This would call for a true shotgun wire that is separable. Is there such a cable? There are a few shotgun cables, but they are mostly fastened together in some way I believe. And considering the cost, most don't buy them when they think they can get similar performance from a single biwire cable which is a little over half the cost
I only use my gun whenever kindness fails
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Here is the quote from the FAQ:http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/Answr7.htm
With the high-current signal (Bass) separated from the low-current signal (Treble) this small signal modulation was eliminated as long as the cables were separated by at least an inch or two. (To keep the treble cable out of the field surrounding the bass cable.)
Willis: ""
Here is the quote from the FAQ:
http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/Answr7.htm
With the high-current signal (Bass) separated from the low-current signal (Treble) this small signal modulation was eliminated as long as the cables were separated by at least an inch or two. (To keep the treble cable out of the field surrounding the bass cable.)""
The statement you quote gives the appearance that there actually is merit to their assertion. That is unsupported by their site. What they did say is this:
""We believe that this dynamic field modulates the smaller signals, especially the very low level treble frequencies.""No proof, just one hall probe measurement..
It's all just supposition without measurement.
They are, of course, somewhat in the correct direction. But the explanation is off base, leading to incorrect conclusions.
You can take your discussion about the lack of scientific rigor to Mr. Vandersteen at the following:http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/Techpage1.html
Why do I feel that you have a plastic pocket protector?
willis: ""
You can take your discussion about the lack of scientific rigor to Mr. Vandersteen at the following:
http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/Techpage1.html""And what would that serve? I've handed rigorously accurate derivations of this stuff to vendors like him, to application and design engineers at some of the biggest audio companies around, and the end result?? pfffft.
Vendors such as Vandersteen do not care. And, WHY SHOULD THEY? The verbage on his site is full of theoretical holes big enough to drive a truck through...What market advantage would be gained by fixing it? Reality is rarely sexy, and doesn't feed the kids.. I cannot blame him, nor any other high end vendors for ignoring the rigorously accurate equations and the ramifications to their product lines.. If the equations clearly explain what is going on with respect to biwiring, and COMPLETELY AGREE WITH AUDIBILITY EXPERIENCE reported by the vendor, it lacks a certain, shall we say, "curb appeal".
I've posted the correct equations and discussion at many different forums, with the expectation that any vendor who really cares, can pick it up and use it to better their product, while dispelling ridiculous myths. Unfortunately, the myths are far sexier to the customer.
willis: ""
Why do I feel that you have a plastic pocket protector?""Why do you say it with disdain?
I was geeky long before it was socially acceptable to be so. Now, with all the hacker kids, the bluetooth stuff, the mp3, the internet, being a geek isn't so special...:-(
Understanding e/m field theory doesn't make one a social outcast. Accusing me of owning a "pocket protector" appears as just a defense mechanism of yours..besides, I've never owned one..and kidded my friends in grad school for using them.. called em "poindexters", don't think anybody here remembers that term...
Bottom line: discussion with the vendors has proven useless, they don't think it will help their bottom line, and I agree with them..the consumer needs to change first. The vendors will provide a technical explanation commensurate with their customer's expectations.
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