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In Reply to: Went w/ the Anticables Speaker cable, am I completely f'in crazy or is anyone with me? posted by bullethead on December 26, 2006 at 18:04:37:
Got the anticables this morning, I put in Pink Martini "Hang on Little Tomato". Immediate difference out of the box, it's mind blowing. The only issue I had was that I ordered them too long and have them coiled up over the speaker posts and it looks "ugly".Compared to the AP Oval 12 it's not even a comparison really. AP's sound muffled compared to the "anti cable".
Warm regards.
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Happy New Year, bullethead.How are the anti-cables sounding now that you've had a few hours on them? From their design, the top-end, speed, and transparency/imaging are probably amazing.
But how's the bass, body of the notes & instruments, and timbre? Does the music sound richly filled-out, if you know what I mean?
a happy one to you as well!The bass has lost its weight. I can only talk about it as "lack of boom and rumble". The midrange and (since I have twisted them together) top end are fantastic.
I listen to a lot of rock music, that has lost its "heavy" feeling somewhat but the detail is more apparent. I believe that the solid state amp I use is showing itself more. The system is more transparent it seems, as if a veil was lifted. With jazz/classical coloration is not there, the instruments sound like they are played at a quicker pace, and more richly so.
If you mean there seems to be more music by "richly filled out" that is indeed the case. The bass however went down a notch, I don't know what to make of it really. As I said the bass lost its weight, I find a need to turn the powered subwoofer on now.
I gather from this that the wire is more transparent than my previous setup.
I'm a sucker for these anti-cables...in my system one direction definitely has more bass than the other. The 1 thing the A-C's have in spades is monster bass IMO. If you're not experiencing this, they need more break-in time (500 hrs according to the Speltz's) or you might have them backwards.to comfound the whole directionality thing up, the pos & neg runs may need to go opposite directions. In other words, if there really is one right direction and one wrong (1 w/bass that is), then the right for the pos is gonna be the wrong for the negative. Balancing this out is tedious, but its audible and once you find it, forget about it and let everything settle a few weeks.
Thanks for the reply and New Years' wishes!It's interesting to read your comments about bass.
On one hand, it could be the bass has tightened up - we tend to get used to bass bloat and when it becomes more accurate, it's easy to hear that as a downside rather than the accuracy it really is.
On the other hand, the lack of bass has always been something that's kept me away from speaker cable designs like the Anti-Cables. The Mapleshades (a thin, solid, single-conductor design) I've tried lost out to Kimbers (a ticker, stranded, multi-conductor) for that reason.
Can I ask what your speakers are rated down to in terms of frequency response? That might explain the need for your subwoofer.
Cheers.
Thanks for your reply.The speakers are rated down to about 50hz or so, so a subwoofer is needed in the most optimal configurations anyway.
The bass has tightened up, I am sure this "bass bloat" you speak of is what it is. I was used to it, and now my ears are readjusting. As a whole the system sounds more transparent. I might experiment again with speaker cables down the line, but the anticables will hold their position until then.
Speaker cables, IME, need to be supported as if they were audio components. The Anti-cables present a challenge, as they are stiff and light. Simply resting them on acoustically quiet lifters will not help much. I would try lifters with sand bags to hold the cables down on the lifters.I don't know if this will work, as I don't use the Anti-cables. My cables are simple, and sufficiently limp to rest upon lifters from their own weight.
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