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I need some extremely inexpensive (i.e. definitely used) speaker cables that impart warmth and euphonics for a system that currently sounds overly bright/sizzling.
Any ideas?- Denon 2900 universal player
- 120w Onix integrated SS amp
- Paradigm Studio 20 speakers (metal dome tweeter) with silver speaker cablesThank you! I posted this in Speaker Asylum and now realize this was the better place to ask.
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Tara Labs cabling. These can be found quite inexpensively and will probably help with the problems you seek to band-aid.Personally, i would avoid the earlier suggestion of Kimber 4PR. In my experience, this cable tends to add a certain "zippiness" to high frequency information. From what i'm reading in your post, this is exactly what you are trying to avoid. The Kimber TC series of cabling does not suffer from this, so i'm assuming that it has something to do with the quality of conducting and dielectric materials. Sean
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Hukk
Hard to go wrong, even as an experiment!
That is NOT the job of cables. That is the job of some other components, mainly preamps and speakers. The job of cables is to be as invisible sonically as possible.
Hukk
Hi,I use both Acoustic Zen Wows and Chris VH as interconnects on my vintage Scott amp based system. The Wows by themselves are too much, but with matched Chris's cables they have a warmth and musicality that is perfect for my set up. I would like to move up the Zen line, but for this system the change was significant and very positive.
On my single-driver/2A3 SET upstairs system, I just use Chris' interconnects and Mapleshade speaker wire. The addition of the Wows are audible, but I find them a little restricting and the benefits did not seem as great.
Still I'm always going to for a deal on Acoustic Zen cables.
Radio Shack spk cables. Stereophile C rated(I think) and as natural as they come.
Cardas, Canare both fit the bill.
...or 8PR if your run is > 8 feet.I did cable comparisons years ago using speakers with a very wide impedance variation (a tough load) and interestingly, even though this cable sounded a little mellow in the treble compared with some others, when I broke out my test gear and measured the transfer function, it actually had better a high frequency response and was essentially flat through the audio range.
In long term listening it satisfied while the others, which were more exciting at first, became annoying. The speakers have worn out (blasted foam surrounds) but I still use the cable. In fact I currently have two systems wired with it, one with Ti dome tweeters and one with EMIT (electromagnetic planar) tweeters and mids.
It's an accurate cable with small current loops so it's not fussy about routing and external fields. And at ~$2/foot, affordable.
nt
Interconnect cables are at least as important as speaker cables to good sound so don't ignore them as they may well lie at the root of your discontent. Borrow some cables of different styles if you can and try them with your equipment to see if they make a difference. I think some equipment is more sensitive to cables than others and you want to see if it matters and what is possible. Be sure to try either a commercial or home-brew low capacitance unshielded cable made with small solid wire. You may be in for a pleasant surprise.
I agree. I use the Tara Labs Vector 2, which is a spaced and twisted pair between the CD player and pre-amp. This is a mighty nice cable. I think it's a bargain.This type of cable design drives me crazy... Shielded is better, right?! Nope.
You nailed it.
Cables do not import warmth (or anything else) into a system. They function as subtle tone controls by subtracting the antithesis of warmth, namely treble sizzle.Based on my experience with these unfortunate objects, I would look at the metal-domed tweeters first, before I used selective cables to obstruct a frequency band in my system. I've long believed that getting the right cables comes after you've gotten everything else right.
I was in the same situation- had DH Labs Q10- excellent neutral to slightly bright cables ( at least for an all SS system ) and simply wanted SLIGHTLY warm cables - tried a very warm cable -cardas Quadlink- you loose too much detail. I bought the Audioquest Bedrock on sale at Audio Advisor- I would call them a warmish neutral and excellent value for the money.They are finished very well by AA with numerous termination options.
Audioquest type 4 or 6, tried both, warm yes, slighty veiled yes, cheap yes.v.i.
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