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I am thinking of getting a very good integrated amp. I listen to music at max.90dB at 8' away from the speakers, in a smallish 10'x18' room. I am going back to simplicity - less power cords, less cables, less rack space.Any owners of these machines who have experience on what I have listed? I would like to know the character of these amps vis-a-vis others you have heard. Thanks!
Gryphon-Diablo (250W, Class-A biased circuit?)
Accuphase-E550 (30W, Class-A circuit)
ASR Emitter 2(not Exclusive version) (250W, class-AB circuit)
Krell FBI (I think this could be an overkill!)
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nt
Price, power, look wise, both are quite similar.
Wonder how they sound comparo?
Thanks.
I've never compared them side by side. But I've heard the Lavardin several times and owned the Brinkmann. The Lavardin is very musical, like the Brinkmann, but rather cool and lean where the Brinkmann has more flesh and a more natural sense of warmth. The Brinkmann has to be one of the best integrateds out there. And without a doubt the most beautiful!
I am very happy with mine.
You said quality amp. This falls in that category. It is one of the smoothest, most balanced (in terms of sound) amps i have ever heard. But it is expensive. Wherever this amp is - at a show, in a city i am visiting, I camp out for a half-day and listen. The music is so lovely.
The Accuphase E-550 is BY FAR the best integrate in existance!Accuphase has once again rewritten the book on linearity with its revolutionary AAVA gain circuit. Combined with their benchmark-setting A-Class amplifier section, this integrate truely sets a new standard.
It should be ideal if your speakers aren't terribly inefficient.
It might be helpful if you can compare the E550 with some other pedigreed integrateds that you've listened to. I myself am curious on this Accuphase model (cuurently I use a Plinius 9200) but there's very little reviews out there that compare it with its peers.
This integrate has no peers! It runs circles around all of the other integrates, as well as all but the very best Accuphase seperates.It is simply the most accurate, linear, realistic, refined, transparent and true-to-life integrate available!
over and over again.In case you still don't get it - you're doing great disservice to Accuphase.
Buzz Off!
You are just another aggressive imbecile, who decided for some reason to lurk here, stinking up the air.
nt.
Because you think the Accuphase E-550 is the best integrated in existence doesn't make it so.Am I a moron too ?
"Because you think the Accuphase E-550 is the best integrated in existence doesn't make it so."I highly doubt George has heard every integrated amp ever offered to the public but he certainly has a trained ear. Whether that agrees with your ear, or anyone elses ear for that matter, is certainly up for debate.
He is just excerting his opinion over years of use with varying products. Hell, I currently think that the Pass Labs Aleph 3 is THE best amplifier on the planet, as did many people when it first came out, but that does not mean it is the best amplifier for all people/systems.
This hobby is full of opinions and it is the true audiophile that understands that the very same component will sound very different in a variety of systems and to proclaim one component as the end all, be all of musical interpretation is certainly mentally myopic.
There R situations where any amplifier could be made to sound like shit, but one must have a certain understanding of component compatibility to be able to assemble a musical system within it's design limits. For example: one would not choose a 300B SE amplifier for bass heavy rock or technical music even if the 300B amp was paired with 100db sensitive speakers. The output device will just not deliver the stomach crunching goods that a good SS design will provide, musicality aside.Different strokes for different folks,
~kenster
Since George Mann hasn't registered, and he hasn't relayed ANY of his experiences, we have no idea who he is: although his posts are very opinionated and inflammatory, - which would lead some to conclude that he is an ass. Calling someone a "Moron" on these boards is simply unacceptable, - and he should not be defended for that.There's no rule here against being a troll, - or in his case a shill.
Where the real problem lies, - besides the fact that he is behaving as would a coward, - is that his tone appears to pass off his opinions as facts. By making such inflammatory and wrong statements similar to: Accuphase builds the most neutral and/or accurate amps; at worst he's lying, at best he's confusing his subjective opinion as a provable fact: when we all know that we cannot agree on the definition of those terms; (and those terms when undefined, are moving targets, what about Halcro)?
You're absolutely right when you say, "to each his own." George Mann would do well to follow that great advice, - he certainly doesn't appear to in any of his posts....
The problem of leisure, what to do for pleasure. Ideal love a new purchase, a market of the senses. Dream of the perfect life.
Now would you kindly remove your head from your mothers ass??!!
N/T
Reading my reply would certainly indicate that I support George but my intent was to hightlight the fact that just because a component sounds good in ones system, does NOT mean it will sound the same when implemented in another system.I gave George the benefit of the doubt but I certainly didn't know the extent of his history of being abrasive and inflammatory but even still, being of a differing opinion does not make one wrong.
I agree that calling someone a "Moron" is unacceptable solely for the
reason of disagreement and this would certainly point to a mentally myopic viewpoint.Cheers
And so is anyone else who feels the need to virulently attack my posts!
I find most of this rather offensive.
To think, I actually defended one of these guys a few months ago.Actually, the Cntent Rules state...
Hasn't this thread violated them somewhere along the line?
Can we stop this now?
B. No defamatory statements:
Defamatory statements are, for example, statements that contain certain kinds of untrue factual information about a person or a company that is derogatory. It's okay to say that the Belchfire amplifier sounds "flat and uninvolving." It's not okay to say that the amplifier doesn't meet its published specifications, unless you back the statement up with proof. Likewise, it's not okay to accuse a person or company of being dishonest, committing fraud, etc.
As a general rule, avoid repeating vague and unsubstantiated rumors about someone or some company. Stick to your experiences and your opinions, based on what you know not what you have heard on the grapevine.
C. No flames, personal attacks or contentious off-topic comments: The idea is to make this a pleasant environment to discuss audio, not a schoolyard, or name-calling and rock-throwing festival.
As I said, you shouldn't really skip your medication. I recommend you talk to your doctor about dosage increase.Meanwhile, until your condition stabilizes, it's better for you to refrain from posting here - it can make things worse.
nt.
"his tone appears to pass off his opinions as facts"His statements lead me to the same conclusion.
Don't know how much help I can be, but I've heard the Diablo and FBI briefly, and the ASR (the four-box affair) at CES and several times at a fellow audiophile's house. Haven't heard the Accuphase.The Diablo struck me as a little on the cool side. It was being run with all-Gryphon electronics and speakers. It could've just as easily been any or all of the other stuff rather than the Diablo, but given my impression of the Gryphon house sound, I doubt it. The overall system was very quiet, resolved, and dynamic, though, so make of that what you will.
The FBI is the most powerful and dynamic integrated I've ever heard. It's also built like a beast. It allowed music to breathe and flow very easily. But I thought the midrange was a little too warm and the highs a tad soft for my ears--which is the polar opposite of what I've come to expect from Krell. Overall, it's a great unit, but very pricey for an integrated.
I'm most familiar with the ASR. Personally, despite all the drooling raves, I'm not a big fan of it. The midrange seems pretty dark to me, which is a common criticism. Because of the batteries, it's extremely quiet, but it's doing something in the mids that I just don't like. My first encounter with it was at CES 2006, where I heard it paired with Kharma, and that combo, while very refined and detailed, just sucked the life out of any pop/rock I tried to play through it. Wasn't lively enough for me.
Anyway, that's all I can offer. It would be beneficial to know what speakers you're running. The amp-speaker interface is especially critical. Hope this helps.
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