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In Reply to: What would be a very good TVC?? I thought about the S&B--Django nt posted by audiophilewannabe on April 11, 2007 at 18:49:45:
... should the best you can get these days without breaking the bank, but let's see what are your objections to promitheus. if it fits well, if you have one of the latest incarnations (easiest to recognize by a metal bottom as well as a metal lid), and if it is well run-un (essential for proper conlusions - it takes ages with the TVCs), it will perform very close to a copper S&B so i am not sure if django or MFA would be a reasonable investment. if it happen you like what is TVC doing, i would seek for a silver S&B.
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Oooof...dunno about silver in the trannies. Plus, read the S&B issues on threads at AC, they are a bit of a bust now it sounds like.Enjoy the Promi! If you tired of it i'm sure Nick Chua, the designer, can make better trannies for more $. His current offerings are priced to get 'em in everyone hands for cheap.
Or, if you want to go nuts he now offers an active preamp that's used in conjunction with the TVC....it costs $550. Supposed to be awesome. I'd like to hear that combo against the hi-end pre's...
I know of a few other decently priced TVC's (around $1K) by other firms, but have been told they too are using nick's trannies... stick with the cigar box & get a dope mount for it. The Mapleshade Ultimate Triplepoints + Isoblock'd maple paltforms are sick, sick, sick under this TVC.
no affiliation, but i am a happy TVC user.
The recent events with S&B don’t sit right me. It appears as though - John Chapman did the design work and S&B provided the manufacturing. S&B then decides to sticks his design into their own (Music First) product and cut him off. If true, is morally and legally wrong. I hope Bent sues and / or comes up with something better.
Believe what your ears say - not hearsay.
my feeling is that the S&B trannies are compromized and don't actually represent the last word in the transformer's world as they are promoted. they are very good, but they are not the final frontier of what a great TVC can do. i would say they are decent but not extraordinary. they still have their obvious weak spots - for example my main objection is thay can't handle dynamics as they could resulting in a lack of drive in lower register - with this matter apparently the silver version is a better choice.but for sure there are so many other solutions with the transformer design that are waiting to be tried, tested by an experienced person and brought to the audio masses.
my only objection with whoever worked with S&B is that no one bothered about that fact as long as they all benefited from producing "the best TVC transformers in the world". so my feelings for john are slightly compromised but anyway, he didn't deserved this.
my criticism of S&B sound comes from a perspective of someone who has heard a simple, domestically made TVC with hand-wound transformers that smoked S&B based product badly, but really badly. i know this is hard to accept, but hold your breath, the product should be commercially available until the end of 2007.
the reason why it sounds good is that its designers only respected very old rules of audio transformers, nothing more, nothing less.
john chapmen should, before his next decision, open these old books and read them again. it is all written there.
What were some of the ones you’ve tried?Although music, the warmer side of dead on neutral and slighty subtractive dynamics and pace felt a little reserved or too polite ims. Do you know of something that can do what it does with a more drive / dynamics?
Believe what your ears say - not hearsay.
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