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RE: Rega P3,6,8 & Nagaoka cartridges and the 'Trade-up' Trap

Posted by John-from Seattle on October 12, 2020 at 20:18:36:

As a current owner of the current P6, I bought it over the P3 for the fact that it's become the better value proposition and the P3, Vs the P6 sonically is different. The P3 still retains that forward edge in the upper mids/presence band (3K-5K range or so), the P6 polishes it, makes it more refined, and thus less edgy and both tables use the exact same arm, the RB330 arm that's good up to a grand for carts if you so choose.

Even Ghost of Olddude 55 got the same table as I got, a bit later as apparently I helped him to do so, unknowingly. Anyway, we both love our tables and I forget what cart he runs in his, but I just swapped over the Grado Prestige Green 1 I bought new in 2018, around the time the green 2 came out, and now we're onto the green 3 version, but I digress.

I find that some LP's, and 45's too for that matter will come off peaky in that they will sound shrill in the presence band, more so than others, and it's not the table/arm/phono stage, but the record itself as others sound just fine, rich, detailed and not shrill.

With my setup, and it's listed and updated, it's a dynamic and detailed rig, as is the gear downstream of it. It's an open, but not bright, but some LP's can bring on a bit of brightness and others, surprisingly aren't as bright as I thought in the past, but it was gear dependent. For instance, the Bachman Turner Overdrive LP's tend to come off bright and over processed (Boston too), now, not as much. In fact, BTO sound reasonably good now, more even but still an OK-ish recording overall, but listenable nonetheless.

I'm actually considering sticking with Moving Iron carts as that's what the Grados all are, variations of the MI design to another moving iron, but higher up the chain, and not Grado, but SoundSmith in the lower end of their product line.

I get an open top end that is not bright or shrill, the upper mids (presence band) is refined and full, but not overdone, nor edgy.

Some of my system is known for its forwardness, but even now, none of it is as bad as it was in the past with bottom feeding gear. In essence, I have ADS (speakers), NAD for amplification/preamp, a Muffsy PP4 phono stage being the heart of the system. It's lively, dynamic and punchy and a joy to listen to, be it pop, rock, or jazz.