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Posted by Rick W on September 18, 2020 at 09:55:15:

He called David Murray - then one of his best friends - the 'Trane of the '80's at a time when Murray couldn't play in tune. Then, when Murray greatly improved they had a falling out and Crouch bad mouthed Murray's music. Backassward and IMO criticism too influenced by friendship or lack thereof.

During one of my broke periods when I wasn't makin' enough money playing gigs and I had to return to cab driving part time I had Crouch in my cab along with what I'd guess was a student. It was a fairly long ride due to traffic and I heard around a half hour of Crouch expounding on various jazz related topics including players. To be honest it was a long time ago and I can't remember the specific things he said. But I do remember that it was hard to refrain from turning around and saying "What a crock of shit."

Its not that I have no respect for him as a writer or jazz historian/critic. I do and have enjoyed some of his writing. But he was very far from someone whose views I cared much about. Also waaay to convinced of his own righteousness.