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RE: You guys are accumulating a burden of proof you'll never get out from under of. (Hey!...

Posted by Joseph Cohen (M) on March 22, 2008 at 11:38:25

In Reply to: RE: You guys are accumulating a burden of proof you'll never get out from under of. (Hey!... posted by May Belt on March 22, 2008 at 08:52:51:

May,

I think that I only addressed explanation (1) in my response. I have not seen an explanation as to why the RR-77 should effect the viscosity of the air in a room, and would rather to speculate as to why. (I will ask the manufacturer to explain how they feel that comes about and report back here.) I have heard that Schumann Resonance devices are being experimented with in the dairy industry to help cows give more milk. If that is true, it would seem to support explanation (3) which in turn could be explained by the claim that this resonance exists naturally in places that are undisturbed by modern technology. I think it is fair to say that we feel better when we are away from civilization. In fact, the electronic media that we bombard ourselves with could be seen as an attempt to fill in what we are missing: when we are on a trail in the mountains, the moon rising over a ridge is enough. (There is a larger context to this discussion which has to do with the experiment we are conducting on ourselves by living in a sea of electronica (microwaves, cell phones, computer screens, etc) and toxic substances that directly affect our well being. If in fact we need a device to correct the devices that detract from our well being, then perhaps it’s time to rethink the whole thing.)

But back to the question at hand regarding why people are surprised: I think the acknowledgement of the effect that the RR-77 is having by a fairly large number of people actually represents a breakthrough in the general understanding of how systems behave. I have been saying for years that the interactions between all of the devices, traces, chassis material, circuit board material and wiring in a circuit are practically incalculable, that the interactions between all of the materials in the construction of a single cable are way more numerous than can be acounted for by LCR alone, that the interactions of all of the individual components, wires, materials that make up the room and building are probably infinite. This is not original thinking but purely derivitive of what I have learned from others and what I have observed. Everything vibrates. Everything has an electrical charge. Each material is in relationship with the materials around it. This is why there is no such thing as a vacuum, even in a vacuum. There is only continuum and ever shifting relationship.

The blind men and the elephant can be said to be true of our knowledge of systems: no one of us has heard every system in every context. Based on limited experience, each one of us draws conclusions and embraces preferences. In a sense, trying to solve all of the problems inherent in systems by only changing components whether on a macro or micro level is like trying to build a skyscraper in a two dimensional world. One has to step back and observe what forces are acting on the system from a more global perspective. Acklowledging that the RR-77 works on the system/room/individual without being directly connected or even touching points to another source of interference which I would postulate is the sum total of interactions of any given system. This new understanding can be seen as a watershed moment. It may enable us to continue working on solutions that will be more universally applicable.

Regarding postings and counterpostings of cable elevators etc. (As a general comment): It is disrespectful of others to tell them that they cannot have not heard what they say they have heard because acknowledging their experience would be in conflict with one’s own world construct. It is always better to listen and learn.

Thanks,

Joe Cohen

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