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RE: Not exactly Todd...

"I didn't see anything like it before the C&C line."

Me neither..... I looked up the design to make sure it was indeed an "open" design that Cain made famous, rather than a Cain original.

"Do you mean that Carder predates C&C, or just that they simply both came up with the same designs coincidentally and without knowledge of each other's work?"

They both used the Olson/Nagaoka dual-mouth backhorn design. This is why they're similar. The only thing Cain did was he applied that "circular piece" to some of his other models. And as you saw in the drawing pic I supplied, a designer named Aiko put out yet another Olson/Nagaoka design with the same features.

Or to state this another way, it was not Carder copying Cain, but Carder and Cain copying the open (legal) Olson/Nagaoka design.


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