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RE: Tung sol 12ax7 vintage black plates? Is the hype true?

Actually, IMO, some of the Euro tubes are excellent to superb. Pricing is another thing entirely. Perhaps they are over priced because the market will allow it.

Any of the 50's Long plate Euro tubes are superb and again IMO, have few if any American equal. The differences in some instances are minimal to huge.

50's Long plates from Brimar, Siemens and Valvo Hamburg made tubes are some the best I've ever heard.

But then again, Ken Rad, Lansdale, CBS, Tung Sol and Westinghouse (true Westinghouse manufactured tubes, not re-branded) all from the 50's as well, are stellar too.

I guess if one had to generalize any tube made in the 50's are the one's to get......I use them all, rolling is a lot of fun.

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