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What type of music are you listening with these ML speakers?

I know the ones I heard and ran through some serious paces was back in the late 90's/2000's and they played classical and slow moving Jazz very well. But when more complicated types of music like Tower of Power, Grover Washington Jr., David Sanborne, Spyro Gyra, Cold Blood, Kansas, Rush, Stevie Ray Vanghan and many more were played through them....they had a hard time handling those types of music at higher levels and not talking Blasting them either.

The Monolith woofer couldn't keep up with the membrane but I heard they have corrected this but even then the Electrostatic membrane would just break up. Not good for a $5000 speaker at that time. Even the CLS with a separate small subwoofer didn't blend well. When the CLS was push just a little it would break up bad but low volumes is was really nice but still had a small sweet spot for the size and width of that speaker.

Now I just went to the ML website and saw the CLX's and they are different from the CLS's the membranes are smaller than CLS. I also saw they are going for $29,000 too. It better sound good for that money.

There are some really nice sounding Open Baffle that will rival or even better the Martin Logan speakers for a lot less. I would like to see really good Open Baffles side by side with the Martin Logans to see how they compare. I think everyone would be really surprised at the results.

Even the ET LFT-8's would give the ML a run for their money and the LFT-8' are under $2500.

I would really like to know what type of music and at what listening levels others here using that are claiming the ML Electrostatics speaker are way better sounding. To me, a good speaker will have to play everything you throw at it well. I know there is no perfect speaker, but I had did a 2 year search listening to many different high End Speakers from box types, Open Baffle, Electrostatics, and Planar. They all have their strengths and weakness but I found out that the Electrostatic speakers while sounds awesome at lower listening levels, did not do well when push to about normal listening levels.

The only Electrostatic speaker that I haven't heard yet but was told to me by a buddy of mine that has heard Carver Amazing Platinums hot rodded were the Roger Soundlab Electrostatics he had recently bought that were not very big but sound great and he said you could really push them hard and they didn't break up. I forget the model he has but they are rare to find and need a subwoofer. But he was really blown away at their sound and playback listening level. He also said he had heard some bigger ML's and that the didn't sound well when pushed and preferred his new Roger Soundlabs that was just a year or two ago but I haven't heard them yetso I really can say if that was the case. He also has a pair of Orions which isn't a bad speaker either but he said the Rogers Soundlab killed those.

I'm not anti electrostatic which I have always loved their sound but hate that you can't push them very hard. Even my Electrostatic headphones do the exact same thing. I just believe you should be able to listen to a speaker at above book reading levels to really enjoy when the music or situation calls for it. I just hope the newer ML speaker do this way better than the older Martin Logan's

My Carver Amazing Silver dipoles are a joy to listen to with either tube, Tube Hybrid, or solid state amps. They have a good soundstage with really good depth, sweet mids and great bass. I can listen at lower levels or at high volume levels without them breaking up and didn't cost an arm and a leg.

I will soon get over to a dealer that sells these ML's and see what they sound like now. I will definitely run them through the same paces I did back in the late 90's. So I will see then.




Edits: 02/19/17

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