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In Reply to: Darwin 1942 posted by FenderLover on March 12, 2017 at 05:38:24:
This raid was carried out by the same Task Force that raided Pearl Harbour, Ceylon, and the Indian coast.By the time of that first raid, headquarters in Japan and the top commanders at sea and in the field, had already begun cutting back on their plans.
Viz.
Restricting themselves to capturing the whole island of New Guinea, which would have allowed them to interdict supplies from the USA to Australia.
But they failed at that task.
Taking Australia, or at least its North, which had been in their plans, as an 'if necessary,' was by early 1942 dropped, at IJN insistence.
The vast bulk of their army stayed in China and Manchuria until 1945. Where the Russians whipped them, in a few weeks.
They caught 'victory disease' in China, well before WWII began in Europe.
They - their two services commands - didn't know they had the disease - until Midway, after the first raids on Darwin.
But even then the crews returning to Japan, and the soldiers in the Pacific were threatened / cajoled - Kempei Tai? - not to tell their folks back home what had happened at Coral Sea and Midway.
People either don't know, or forget, that two* large carriers went back to Japan as a result of the battle of the Coral Sea, one because its aircrew were dead, the other because it was so badly damaged. That battle was not quite a draw.
Yorktown was patched up in time for Midway.
Several RAN ships were at the Coral Sea battle.
Further? The cryptanalysis that allowed the USN's 3 carriers to ambush the IJN's 4 carriers at Midway (but not 6*)? It was a joint, allied achievement. Australia's Army cryptanalysis team and its RAN spooks played a critical role, along with Friedman's team at Pearl.
I've studied the history of this back in the 1970s, on an army course, to learn the lessons,(procedural, tactical and strategic). And, since as more and more has been revealed. LBNL my FILaw Prof. J.T. Laird was directly involved.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Edits: 03/12/17 03/12/17
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Follow Ups
- They bombed Darwin 42 times, IIRC. - Timbo in Oz 13:45:30 03/12/17 (16)
- "Victory disease" in China- too true. Also, imagine if... - MWE 15:28:18 03/12/17 (15)
- Logistics - FenderLover 20:04:19 03/12/17 (0)
- All six? Not quite. - Timbo in Oz 16:13:29 03/12/17 (13)
- Think you misread me- look at title AND text- "If" nt. - MWE 16:31:02 03/12/17 (12)
- Okay, I did misread you. :-) - Timbo in Oz 21:24:14 03/12/17 (4)
- Right re: Midway, that being my point. - MWE 22:18:46 03/12/17 (3)
- your point is a 'fantasy' point. - Timbo in Oz 01:57:31 03/13/17 (2)
- Sir, what is wrong with you? - MWE 07:33:25 03/13/17 (0)
- Intelligence and reconnaissance. - FenderLover 06:25:28 03/13/17 (0)
- IJN = 10 total Aircraft Carriers at start of WW2 - FenderLover 19:47:16 03/12/17 (6)
- RE: IJN = 10 total Aircraft Carriers at start of WW2 - Tweaker456 22:09:47 03/12/17 (5)
- Torpedo issues - FenderLover 06:19:36 03/13/17 (4)
- Great link! The worst part being... - MWE 07:46:30 03/13/17 (3)
- Admiral Charles Lockwood - FenderLover 09:32:49 03/13/17 (2)
- But he also took a long time to come around to the crews' point of view about the magnetic pistols. - Timbo in Oz 17:28:13 03/13/17 (1)
- Seemed that the Navy hierachy weren't sure about the Sub's... - FenderLover 18:08:18 03/13/17 (0)