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***the very best performing, well designed and highly refined & setup vinyl systems****

You use *very best* several times and along with "highly refined" and "setup" they are the linchpin of your illustration, which otherwise is a good one, imho. It is real tough, if not meaningfully possible to limit a discussion to comparisons of the "very best, highly refined, and setup vinyl systems". (Translation: Very Expensive, cost does matter in vinyl playback.) It is simply too narrow to have anything but ambiguous meaning. Clearly you believe your systems makes the cut...and I do believe it does! But how many others do? And how is that judgment determined? Certainly my vinyl system which at $10,000+ only meets the "setup bar" is left in the dust. But it should not have to meet that bar to be competitive. (By the way, when comparing two channel sound my vinyl system is competitive with SACD.) Your standard is awfully esoteric. It's a Bugatti Veyron 1% type standard.

I think threads such this are better served when comparing “properly implemented" setups within a given system, preferably his or hers own system. Given those criteria I would never dispute the results that you have found in your system just as I will not dispute the results of the original poster who has found SACD to be superior in his system My results mirrors his results.

Robert C. Lang

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