In Reply to: That would be the person posted by E-Stat on January 27, 2017 at 08:24:11:
Hi,
The audibility of distortions is certainly not clear cut -- lots of research going on -- but there are some areas where what you measure and what you hear are strongly correlated. I'll give you one very straightforward example: ribbon tweeters.
We've been measuring speakers with ribbon tweeters for well over a decade and, often, we've found that reviewers hear a harsh, aggressive sound from them when the music gets turned up. If you look at the distortion on ribbons, below about 3500Hz the distortion rises at an increasing rate until you get to about 2000Hz, which is where many companies choose to cross them over in two-ways to get a proper blend with the mid-woofer, where it wants to shoot through the roof. Oftentimes, it's over 10%, even higher.
What's happening? From what I can tell, most ribbons don't have the excursion to reproduce frequencies that low, so it's cranking out a distorted sound. Simple as that -- and it's easily measurable. Funny thing is, I was talking to a recording engineer about this and he said, "You know what, sax players love ribbon microphones, because they have bite." That bite, I bet, is that harsh, aggressiveness you can hear from a ribbon tweeter. In fact, nowadays when we get a ribbon-based speaker in, whenever I can, I'll often ask the designer, "How do you deal with the distortion?" When they know what they're doing, they'll tell you.
Anyway, that's one example where you can look at the distortion plot and correlate it very strongly with the sound.
Doug Schneider
SoundStage!
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- Example: ribbon tweeters - Doug Schneider 09:42:27 01/27/17 (13)
- RE: Example: ribbon tweeters - A.Wayne 08:31:55 02/01/17 (0)
- Very well - E-Stat 10:29:26 01/27/17 (11)
- RE: Very well -- I have not heard the Scaenas or Nolas, but . . . - goldenthal 19:45:40 01/28/17 (3)
- RE: Very well -- I have not heard the Scaenas or Nolas, but . . . - E-Stat 06:30:42 01/29/17 (2)
- RE: Very well -- I have not heard the Scaenas or Nolas, but . . . - goldenthal 12:25:47 01/29/17 (1)
- RE: Very well -- I have not heard the Scaenas or Nolas, but . . . - E-Stat 15:30:06 01/29/17 (0)
- RE: Very well - Doug Schneider 10:43:02 01/27/17 (6)
- RE: Very well - E-Stat 10:46:49 01/27/17 (5)
- RE: Very well - Doug Schneider 11:29:53 01/27/17 (4)
- Michael Hedges? - E-Stat 12:23:56 01/27/17 (3)
- RE: Michael Hedges? - Doug Schneider 13:48:49 01/27/17 (2)
- Thanks for your input -nt - E-Stat 14:00:28 01/27/17 (1)
- You're welcome ... nt - Doug Schneider 14:02:54 01/27/17 (0)