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In Reply to: Lame attempt to point towards someone else. posted by Rick W on September 16, 2020 at 12:01:03:
OK, here we go then, point by point:
You will not find a post from me anywhere saying I believe or disbelieve everything written in the NYT or anywhere else.
Perhaps not, but I think it's fair to make that inference, since you are always the first to act as apologist for the NYT in response to one of my posts. It's especially interesting that, so far, you haven't argued my points in previous posts - you simply resort to calling me "lame" for questioning or denigrating the Times (as if that's an actual argument).
You, however, have posted repeatedly to claim the NYT is basically "deep state" media, publishes misinformation repeatedly (and by implication, knowingly) and is untrustworthy.
Yes - And I still stand by those assertions - I've backed them up with evidence. Or do you want to defend, say, Judith Miller again?
You will find no post from me claiming anything about Vindman, but I'm not sure why you think I should be circumspect if I believed Vindman (see link).
No need for you to claim anything - your link says it all!
YOU are the one whose post is in question, not me or a post of mine.
My posts about the NYT are invariably backed by a specific story or facts. Notice, I don't say things like "It's lame to like the NY Times!". That's more your territory, I think. Although I do acknowledge that I called it "the garbage New York Times" one time - perhaps I got a little too enthusiastic in that post!
It is YOUR unbridled zeal to portray the NYT as unreliable that caused you to post today and use what one military brass said to back you up.
This "one military brass" is the one in charge of actually assessing whether the Times charges are true. I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe, he has more facts at his disposal than the Times does perhaps?
I find that hypocritical considering what I'm pretty sure are your views regarding the MIC.
Mirror, mirror on the wall! And yet it's OK for you to link to a one-sided hero-worshipping article about another military officer (even one with questionable motives)? I've already posted my views on the MIC (yes, I'm generally very skeptical about what they tell us), but, let me ask you, what are your own views on the MIC?
It displays how desperate you are for some reason that eludes me to denigrate the Times.
I have sound reasons to denigrate the Times, the principal one being that they've never met a war they didn't like, and beyond that, they play fast and loose with the truth in some of their stories and columns, as I've documented in previous posts.
If you're gonna use a high ranking military as a backup to your views then read what I linked and tell me you believe what's in it.
Aha! So you DO believe the military yourself! ;-)
Chris, you are doing yourself no favors with this shit.
Back at ya, Rick.
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Follow Ups
- Did you say "point"? - Chris from Lafayette 14:20:29 09/16/20 (34)
- I haven't trusted what military brass say since Vietnam. - Rick W 15:14:51 09/16/20 (33)
- Rick - you're going back a couple of generations at least. . . - Chris from Lafayette 18:39:03 09/16/20 (31)
- Tiresome. - Rick W 08:56:07 09/17/20 (29)
- Yup - I'm a fan of Matt Taibbi's articles too - we can agree on that! - Chris from Lafayette 10:33:48 09/17/20 (25)
- RE: Yup - I'm a fan of Matt Taibbi's articles too - we can agree on that! - Rick W 11:37:14 09/17/20 (16)
- Writing And Speaking - Inmate51 14:30:38 09/17/20 (0)
- Rick - SURELY you can't have misunderstood my post that badly - Chris from Lafayette 13:01:20 09/17/20 (13)
- "And you DO know that Tucker used to work for MSNBC, right? " - Krav Maga 13:38:45 09/17/20 (10)
- That was back in the days when CNN was more credible! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 13:48:27 09/17/20 (9)
- RE: That was back in the days when CNN was more credible! ;-) - immatthewj 14:20:54 09/17/20 (8)
- Wouldn't know - was never a fan - Chris from Lafayette 14:41:32 09/17/20 (7)
- RE: Wouldn't know - was never a fan - immatthewj 14:56:01 09/17/20 (5)
- Once again, I wouldn't know - I don't watch Shawna [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 16:46:53 09/17/20 (3)
- It's unbelievable - immatthewj 16:48:24 09/17/20 (2)
- Sometimes, the powers that be are more indulgent than at other times! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 20:18:52 09/17/20 (1)
- RE: Sometimes, the powers that be are more indulgent than at other times! [nt] ;-) - rivervalley817 20:49:04 09/17/20 (0)
- RE: Wouldn't know - was never a fan - immatthewj 15:49:52 09/17/20 (0)
- RE: Wouldn't know - was never a fan - rivervalley817 14:45:55 09/17/20 (0)
- C'mon, man yourself. - Rick W 13:33:54 09/17/20 (1)
- Geez - what do you want? - I posted a screen shot of their Twitter account - Chris from Lafayette 13:46:33 09/17/20 (0)
- **poof** - rivervalley817 11:42:25 09/17/20 (0)
- RE: Yup - I'm a fan of Matt Taibbi's articles too - we can agree on that! - rivervalley817 10:44:31 09/17/20 (7)
- Ah! Guilt by association? [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 10:50:59 09/17/20 (6)
- RE: Ah! Guilt by association? [nt] ;-) - rivervalley817 11:06:07 09/17/20 (5)
- Questionableness by association? [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 13:05:24 09/17/20 (4)
- RE: Questionableness by association? [nt] ;-) - rivervalley817 14:29:13 09/17/20 (3)
- As in, we report, you decide? (Or, in this case, you report, I decide?) [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 14:45:14 09/17/20 (2)
- RE: As in, we report, you decide? (Or, in this case, you report, I decide?) [nt] ;-) - rivervalley817 15:53:14 09/17/20 (1)
- Indeed! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 16:48:08 09/17/20 (0)
- No truer words were ever typed - immatthewj 09:00:55 09/17/20 (2)
- RE: No truer words were ever typed - Inmate51 09:18:10 09/17/20 (1)
- RE: No truer words were ever typed - immatthewj 09:25:36 09/17/20 (0)
- RE: Rick - you're going back a couple of generations at least. . . - Inmate51 05:47:46 09/17/20 (0)
- RE: I haven't trusted what military brass say since Vietnam. - rivervalley817 15:43:07 09/16/20 (0)